With these people I always wonder, they claim to hate the "normal politics" with passion, but insist on imitating it as closely as possible. IE's propaganda is the mildest and most uninspiring shit I have ever seen. All their posters look like advertisement for a museum or something. I don't know if they try to recruit their own pear clutching grandmas or something, but their stuff is the blandest, most inoffensive shit ever. You can hardly tell them apart from college republicans.

That's their appeal I think. If it only applied to optics it wouldn't be as bad. They're effete and ineffectual ideologically also.

While IE does sometimes have it's head up its ass, it has successfully cornered the market on young men, claiming that it is not relevant is quite a reach.

> it has successfully cornered the market on young men
Can you back that up somehow? I have seen them have only a small handful of people and its no wonder, why would anyone want to join a group that is so deathly afraid of saying what they think? Why demonstrate at all if you start it by apologizing? I've known a bunch of ex-IE people, one was kicked out for "a racial slur". And the propaganda, it's not only mild, but it's zero effort, teal impact font on a picture of statue, bam. They're in no position to countersignal any NS.

As far as evidence I can only provide anecdotal, as I have seen at several events that the vast majority of young quality white men were IE members. Are you a member of any IE servers? You realize the strictness of muh PR is only extended to the public sphere right? I can understand that many might think that saying "We have got to get rid of all these fucking niggers man, they're raping our people" is less optically appealing than "Because of the vast difference in social needs I believe whites and blacks should be separate" and I can understand removing someone from your group for these reasons, considering the explicit purpose of this group is muh PR.

They are opticslords.

Which is a double edged sword without hardened conviction behind it.

Remember now, that is only as far as the public sphere goes, If you go are with nathan alone having a drink and go "Man, fucking niggers and kikes, they all have to go" he will have no scruples.

You will never attract precisely the sort of radicals and fanatics that are the lifeblood of any movement if you can only spout cucky PR shit. In essence, you are what you pretend to be.

And besides, at some point you have to act on what you believe in, and how can you ever do it when the group holds you back? It's the same fallacy with the entryists.

What would you do with a person who would be offended by mildly racialist propaganda, anyway

Well they backed down wen I reminded them we saved their asses and now they are taking like people again

I mean why would you even want to attract such a useless person, if they're supposedly all hardcore (even though they shit on ebil nazis)

Where are they shitposting, Twitter?

Because they want to look good to the skeptical outsider? Because they want to refrain from being ideologically dismissed by the same tired terms they have used against us for decades? Every group has its purpose.

https://youtu.be/NC7oGgHH_os

@RexLexus yeah we met at the party

Look, we're all in this business because we want a future for whites, and all that. If I wanted to join a group, I'd want to join a group that says exactly that, and projects strenght and pride by saying that, not watering their message down and mincing their words, which projects the exact opposite. We use propaganda as a wide net – we try to maximize its spread not in order to get everyone who hears it on our side, but so as to call out to those few, who are already receptive to our message and just need that last incentive to take the plunge. It is a beacon with which we attract those with potential, and thereafter we vet them for those who are real hopefuls, weeding out losers, fakers and larpers. We cast a wide net, we call out to the few and then distill those numbers even further, until we get only people who can change the world. That's why PR fags vomiting blood over the most inane shit, like shirt color or runic letters is so ridiculous, if you were intending to save the white race but that's a dealbreaker - you were never serious to begin with.

Heil Hitler.

Strenght is respectable. PR faggotry, wearing suits and ties and suitcases is pretty much political cargo cult of adopting things externally associated with respectability. Kikes never relinquished their control over the goyim because they were more respectable or morally superior.

http://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/identity-evropa_join-us-600x399.jpg

I would argue that they do exactly that, except without being explicitly vulgar. Hitler didn't begin every speech by saying "I want to kill all the foreigners and if you don't agree you are a cuck, fed or a LARPER"

Hitler said exactly what he wanted to do and what he did, Hitler spoke the Truth and because of that he was loved and hated, he didn't tailor his message so that the Jewish press wouldn't attack him, the exact opposite.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1494506119846.webm

Look I think TWP is fantastic, but I also think IE has its place, and if we all start publicly taking a shit on eachother things will devolve into the way they have been for decades.

Daily reminder Hitler purity spiraled

Yup he wasn't afraid to say what he meant even if it was unpopular

He was almost killed as a young man for dong just that wen he worked construction

I agree, of course he didn't. He also didn't purge the SA until it was absolutely necessary regardless as to whether or not he knew of what was going on there.

"Too many people believe that combining the strength used by the groups traveling down different roads into one unified journey would be more certain to bring success and bring it faster. But this is not the case. Nature herself, using pitiless logic, decides who succeeds by putting the various groups in competition with one another and forcing them to struggle for victory.

At this time, all those leaders who could not stand on their own feet united into these worker coalitions in the belief that eight lame men, arm in arm, would create one big gladiator. If there were one healthy man among the lame ones, he needed all his strength to keep the others on their feet and ended up paralyzed himself.

It must never be forgotten that nothing truly great in the world has ever been achieved by an alliance. It has always been through the triumph of the individual. The very origin of joint forces carries with it the germ of its own later decay. Great intellectual revolutions that shake up the world are only conceivable and only possible when they are monumental struggles by individuals and never when they are enterprises of coalitions."

- AH, MK

brb cig

Heil Hitler.

Heil Hitler.

I think IE has its place

Just as we do

They do not seek to gather the radicals, they try gathering those who would probably turn out to be shitlibs

So long as they help out with adding people to our broader cause I think they're fine, every movement will have different subcultures imo

The counter signalling is fucking gay though, on their part

I would argue that Hitler, NS germany and the general WN movement have different goals.

I agree

They'll help us get there though

Hitler wanted to unite Germans under one political system for the benefit of Germans