Message from @Summer~ 🍃

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2019-12-11 21:09:15 UTC  

nvm can't use that evidence

2019-12-11 21:09:35 UTC  

say it anyway <:PEPELAUGH:643817011117424708>

2019-12-11 21:10:59 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi what?????????????

2019-12-11 21:11:01 UTC  

because there are only so many memes you can make about being trans

2019-12-11 21:11:18 UTC  

oh ... god... now semantic anti-realists ?

2019-12-11 21:11:31 UTC  

and every trans person unironically acts the same online in a few distinct ways

2019-12-11 21:11:38 UTC  

so it devolves into trans people just posting relatable stuff

2019-12-11 21:11:38 UTC  

^ actually is self-harm against rules? Hrm

2019-12-11 21:11:47 UTC  

well has devolved

2019-12-11 21:12:13 UTC  

@Summer~ 🍃 I'ts a hiv emind

2019-12-11 21:12:22 UTC  

echo chamber^

2019-12-11 21:12:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654430409777479682/unknown.png

2019-12-11 21:15:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654431059496402974/wise.jpg

2019-12-11 21:15:23 UTC  

@Summer~ 🍃 what evidence do you have that trans people are not spawned by an infectious virus

2019-12-11 21:15:46 UTC  

<:Feelsweirdman:644895953064820776>

2019-12-11 21:16:01 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi that i have not contacted a single trans girl in person and am myself trams

2019-12-11 21:16:10 UTC  

What evidence do you have that ordinary people are not spawned by an infectious virus?

2019-12-11 21:16:14 UTC  

@Summer~ 🍃 it only affects 0.5% of those it infects

2019-12-11 21:16:23 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi avoiding the collapse objection exposes you to the incoherence objection the standford page cites hookers responce but it isnt succesfull at defeating a certain form of the incoherence objection https://sci-hub.tw/https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10677-016-9687-8 that objection too can be avoided but with serious costs the rule consequentialism has to accept brute facts

2019-12-11 21:16:44 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi Do you have any statistics to back up this claim?

2019-12-11 21:16:45 UTC  

@Castore could you briefly summarize the incoherence objection

2019-12-11 21:16:53 UTC  

@Summer~ 🍃 yes, 0.5% of people are trans

2019-12-11 21:16:58 UTC  

exaclty the same porportion as thevirus

2019-12-11 21:17:02 UTC  

<:PEPELAUGH:643817011117424708>

2019-12-11 21:17:15 UTC  

oh nvm

2019-12-11 21:17:17 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi would that not mean that 100% of the population is infected

2019-12-11 21:17:19 UTC  

first paragraph is good

2019-12-11 21:17:22 UTC  

so everyone is trans

2019-12-11 21:17:23 UTC  

```The incoherence objection is a major objection to rule-consequentialism. The objection says that the theory allows actions that do not maximize wellbeing, even though the theory is also tacitly committed to maximization```

2019-12-11 21:17:39 UTC  

but only .5% exert symptoms

2019-12-11 21:17:48 UTC  

so its impossible to be wrong when you egg someone

2019-12-11 21:17:55 UTC  

and thereofre it is not problematic

2019-12-11 21:17:57 UTC  

<:PogU:524717853019209749>

2019-12-11 21:18:40 UTC  

@Castore so I'm not sure exactly what Hooker's response is or this guy's response to Hooker's response

2019-12-11 21:19:00 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi ''The viability of this defense of rule-consequentialism against the incoherence objection may depend in part on what the argument for rule-consequentialism is supposed to be. The defense seems less viable if the argument for rule-consequentialism starts from a commitment to consequentialist assessment. For starting with such a commitment seems very close to starting from an overriding commitment to maximize the expected good. The defence against the incoherence objection seems far more secure, however, if the argument for rule-consequentialism is that this theory does better than any other moral theory at specifying an impartial justification for intuitively plausible moral rules. (For more on this, see Hooker 2005, 2007.)''

2019-12-11 21:19:04 UTC  

anti-philosophy gang needs to rise up

2019-12-11 21:19:05 UTC  

this si from the standford page

2019-12-11 21:19:31 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi the responce they cite against the incoherence is from hooker

2019-12-11 21:20:17 UTC  

WHO THE F IS BRAD HOOKER oh

2019-12-11 21:20:21 UTC  

Another worthless moral philosopher