Message from @sydtko

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2020-01-11 03:51:53 UTC  

When you talk about things, you're speaking fictionally and in error

2020-01-11 03:52:00 UTC  

Everything I say is false

2020-01-11 03:52:48 UTC  

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism/
```Fictionalism about a region of discourse can provisionally be characterized as the view that claims made within that discourse are not best seen as aiming at literal truth but are better regarded as a sort of ‘fiction’. As we will see, this first characterization of fictionalism is in several ways rough. But it is a useful point of departure.```

2020-01-11 03:53:39 UTC  

Anime is for children

2020-01-11 03:54:35 UTC  

This is women for you

2020-01-11 03:54:38 UTC  

Ban them

2020-01-11 03:55:58 UTC  

```2.1 Language and ontology

A first crucial distinction is between a linguistic and an ontological thesis. The linguistic thesis is, roughly, that already expressed above, according to which utterances of sentences of the discourse are best seen not as efforts to say what is literally true, but as useful fictions of some sort. The ontological thesis, by contrast, is the thesis that the entities characteristic of the discourse do not exist, or have the ontological status of fictional entities. One can in principle embrace the linguistic thesis without embracing the ontological thesis, and vice versa.

Often the theses are run together. Nolan, Restall and West (2005) say, when introducing fictionalism, “The simplest fictionalist approach to a discourse takes certain claims in that discourse to be literally false, but nevertheless worth uttering in certain contexts, since the pretence that such claims are true is worthwhile for various theoretical purposes”. (The complication that they introduce is that some fictionalists may simply be agnostic about the relevant claims.) Zoltán Szabó (2001) says, “To be a fictionalist about Fs is to think that our naïve attitude toward F-discourse is only halfway correct: we are right in thinking that we use genuine singular terms that purport to refer to Fs, but wrong in thinking that they actually succeed in referring. In engaging in F-discourse we inadvertently slip into fictional talk”. One reason that the linguistic and ontological theses are often run together is that the linguistic thesis is often motivated by ontological concerns. For example, someone who is a nominalist might on that ground find herself attracted to fictionalism about mathematical discourse. ``` I love this bit personally

2020-01-11 03:56:01 UTC  

<:pepeLMAO:644901342216847388>

2020-01-11 03:56:34 UTC  

Imagine not being a linguistic trivialist

2020-01-11 03:58:37 UTC  

@Marcdoof You're doing an undergrad of philo, yes?

2020-01-11 04:00:46 UTC  

no

2020-01-11 04:01:00 UTC  

@Marcdoof are you in college?

2020-01-11 04:01:05 UTC  

Ye

2020-01-11 04:01:07 UTC  

You seem like you're somewhat educated in philo

2020-01-11 04:01:15 UTC  

minor, random courses, personal interest?

2020-01-11 04:01:47 UTC  

Undeclared going into computer and probably taking a philo minor cause it's cool. It's all personal interest @sydtko

2020-01-11 04:01:55 UTC  

I see

2020-01-11 04:01:57 UTC  

yeyey

2020-01-11 04:02:05 UTC  

you?

2020-01-11 04:02:34 UTC  

I dropped out like 12 years ago... was doing STEM... ecology, chem, stats

2020-01-11 04:02:55 UTC  

So it's all ... personal interest. Motivated interest and anger at shit can philosophers

2020-01-11 04:02:58 UTC  

And their nonsense

2020-01-11 04:03:17 UTC  

I can get that

2020-01-11 04:04:07 UTC  

have any of you read zhuang zi?

2020-01-11 04:04:23 UTC  

no

2020-01-11 04:04:23 UTC  

Fucking hell tradcons are idiots

2020-01-11 04:04:34 UTC  

oh yea

2020-01-11 04:13:20 UTC  

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2020-01-11 04:18:44 UTC  

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2020-01-11 16:05:36 UTC  

No

2020-01-11 16:41:14 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi i'll like your tweets mysta OwO

2020-01-11 16:44:45 UTC  

@Federico you're hot

2020-01-11 19:32:43 UTC  

OwO am hawt

2020-01-11 20:18:02 UTC  

@LustrousMandrill where you at

2020-01-11 21:25:56 UTC  

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2020-01-11 22:54:39 UTC  

Lol

2020-01-11 23:48:04 UTC  
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2020-01-12 01:10:54 UTC  

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