Message from @Jones Malone

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2017-11-04 00:28:42 UTC  

A capitalist society promotes exploitation and will always end up where we are now.

2017-11-04 00:28:45 UTC  

The problem is that without a strong central force acting for the good of the people, profit will motivate and reign supreme

2017-11-04 00:29:09 UTC  

Why are third worlders imported in mass to our countries for cheap labor? to maximize profit.

2017-11-04 00:29:15 UTC  

Capitalism is slow boil communism, to catch the frog unaware

2017-11-04 00:29:19 UTC  

You don't make a profit without giving people something they want

2017-11-04 00:29:29 UTC  

Why aren't the people of Appalachia provided the services they need? Its not profitable

2017-11-04 00:29:43 UTC  

Because they're white and they provide for themselves

2017-11-04 00:29:44 UTC  

The problem is that there are wants, and there are needs.

2017-11-04 00:30:03 UTC  

They provide for themselves. But they can't build an entire power grid or water system my man

2017-11-04 00:30:07 UTC  

But the people in Appalachia can just move at any time! Maybe to a big city center

2017-11-04 00:30:24 UTC  

"a luxury once enjoyed brclmrd a necessity" internet I'd now a necessity. So is air conditioning. A cell phone, etc

2017-11-04 00:30:24 UTC  

That requires capital in this system. Something these people don't have.

2017-11-04 00:30:43 UTC  

Hadrian, lots of people did this to work in factories, etc

2017-11-04 00:30:52 UTC  

Alot of them were forced by the way

2017-11-04 00:30:58 UTC  

I was actually reading about this the other day.

2017-11-04 00:31:23 UTC  

The business owners who needed labor would collude with local government and other land owners to force out farmers and the like.

2017-11-04 00:31:36 UTC  

So they'd eventually move into cities for work

2017-11-04 00:31:49 UTC  

The rural farmers and peasants pre industrial age were infinitely more wealthy than the factory workers

2017-11-04 00:32:14 UTC  

I agree, government is evil ;)

2017-11-04 00:32:22 UTC  

And now their children pay $80,000 a year to rent a broom closet

2017-11-04 00:32:45 UTC  

Okay so lets remove the government from this situation

2017-11-04 00:32:58 UTC  

The wealthy now hire boys with guns to forcefully move these people

2017-11-04 00:33:32 UTC  

Which should be fought against. And local thugs are a lot easier to fight against than the federal government

2017-11-04 00:33:54 UTC  

Without the safe guards of a central government what prevents the wealthy from monopolizing force

2017-11-04 00:34:18 UTC  

Recreational McNukes

2017-11-04 00:34:19 UTC  

Feudalism lacked alot of these safe guards, and as a result the peasantry were directly under the whims of the local wealthy such as nobles.

2017-11-04 00:34:46 UTC  

"We need some manpower for this war. Get the fuck off your farm and come with us. Or we kill you and seize your assets"

2017-11-04 00:34:54 UTC  

Without a strong central government, who will build the gas chambers?

2017-11-04 00:35:16 UTC  

Jones, the wealthy already monopolize force

2017-11-04 00:35:40 UTC  

If we eliminate the government (or most of its power) then that disappears. If it comes back in some other form then we should fight that, also

2017-11-04 00:35:54 UTC  

I dont understand how it disappears

2017-11-04 00:36:15 UTC  

Factory owners can't force government to take land from farmers

2017-11-04 00:36:26 UTC  

Yes. They just do it themselves

2017-11-04 00:36:29 UTC  

Slum lords can't block building permits

2017-11-04 00:36:42 UTC  

Right, they just buy the land up outright

2017-11-04 00:36:55 UTC  

That happens much less often , and I agree, it shouldn't happen either, but government does it far more

2017-11-04 00:37:19 UTC  

Thats because we live in a neo capitalist society where our governments often adhere to the whims of the wealthy

2017-11-04 00:37:41 UTC  

The greatest goal of the wealthy is to retain capital and prevent us peasants from aquiring it

2017-11-04 00:38:09 UTC  

We have crony capitalism. Government interferes constantly. America was wealthier and there was far less poverty before the welfare state

2017-11-04 00:38:35 UTC  

Jones, you shouldn't think of yourself as a peasant. You should look at how wealthy people acquired their money and do it yourself

2017-11-04 00:38:59 UTC  

9 out of 10 millionaires in America are self made, meaning they didn't inherit it