Message from ArmaVirumqueCano in tradworker #tradworker


2017-11-24 18:14:21 UTC  

Oh yeah

2017-11-24 18:14:22 UTC  

I'm not really an expert on economic matters, I'm more culturally minded

2017-11-24 18:14:24 UTC  

bigly

2017-11-24 18:14:41 UTC  

Likewise.

2017-11-24 18:14:53 UTC  

I think culture influences economics

2017-11-24 18:14:57 UTC  

This is a topic I've been trying to wrap my head around. How does Socialism operate within Natural Law?

2017-11-24 18:15:25 UTC  

I'm asking sincerely, I've left Capitalism and am trying to sort out my economic philosophy

2017-11-24 18:16:04 UTC  

Well, for starters, we have this image of Socialism as an exclusively Marxist thing

2017-11-24 18:16:50 UTC  

I think if we had an ethnically homogeneous state, Socialism would come naturally

2017-11-24 18:16:59 UTC  

I've been indoctrinated to view the world through a social darwinist lense, viewing everything as a struggle and competition, and I see a free market system as the economic manifestation of this natural struggle. Of course, the JEws have destroyed it via usury and monopolies, so I don't really know how to approach it.

2017-11-24 18:17:06 UTC  

Someone find that article on Prussian Socialism/Socialism of Duty, I gotta run for a bit

2017-11-24 18:17:26 UTC  

As the concept of helping to uplift your people who are in need

2017-11-24 18:17:34 UTC  

Not necessarily gibs

2017-11-24 18:17:53 UTC  

But skills and the like, helping people to help themselves

2017-11-24 18:17:56 UTC  

I've heard some talk about that, like how in Scandinavian countries socialist policies are naturally chosen.

2017-11-24 18:18:22 UTC  

And also taking care of your elderly, sick, and veterans

2017-11-24 18:19:23 UTC  

Socialism as an economic policy is not terrible. As a social policy, it is

2017-11-24 18:19:52 UTC  

Here's my thing, are welfare programs really 'helping out our people'? If i'm making 14$ an hour flipping hamburgers why would I go to college? I don't want to diminish the incentive for self-improvement. I agree that some policies for the elderly or children make since, but again it seems to handicap the weak in what I view our reality to be: a struggle for survival.

2017-11-24 18:20:20 UTC  

I guess we are in the same area, @Michael ?

2017-11-24 18:20:48 UTC  

I suppose I'm mixing ideas with the last post, what you guys are talking about is entirely different than the BernieBros, I'm not being specific enough.

2017-11-24 18:21:00 UTC  

I see you in the other regional server

2017-11-24 18:21:17 UTC  

Yes, I'm in New England.

2017-11-24 18:21:47 UTC  

I am too, but pretty far north lol

2017-11-24 18:21:51 UTC  

Welfare programs are for the disabled, elderly, etc who are actually unable to work or to make ends meet. Any parasites who can work but don't get physically removed

2017-11-24 18:22:00 UTC  

Wait, there's a New England server?

2017-11-24 18:22:10 UTC  

Not for TWP

2017-11-24 18:22:15 UTC  

Not for two

2017-11-24 18:22:20 UTC  

Twp

2017-11-24 18:22:28 UTC  

oh

2017-11-24 18:22:30 UTC  

Whoops

2017-11-24 18:23:57 UTC  

I'm fine with that, @Hadrian . I can remember as an AnCap talking about how those types deserved to die; social darwinism. I suppose the fundamental paradigm shift that I am still sorting out is the trading an individualist philosophy to a folkish one with concerns beyond the economic.

2017-11-24 18:24:41 UTC  

Didn't Hitler write something about this?

2017-11-24 18:24:46 UTC  

lol

2017-11-24 18:24:53 UTC  

National Socialism vs Marxism

2017-11-24 18:25:00 UTC  

I am working my way through Mein Kampf slowly.

2017-11-24 18:25:03 UTC  

Right. That's what a lot of people don't understand: It isn't meant for the society we have now. There would need to be massive cultural reforms to enable this sort of thing

2017-11-24 18:25:55 UTC  

yo is there any nebraska/great plains servers out there

2017-11-24 18:27:03 UTC  

I'm concerned that we would lose the whole 'make your own way' mentality. I highly value self-reliance and I'm not attracted to reliance upon the community. It seems the only welfare programs NatSocs advocate for are for those who actually need it, which makes sense. Entirely different than Communism.

2017-11-24 18:27:20 UTC  

Yeah, we aren't Ayn rand freaks

2017-11-24 18:27:47 UTC  

Thanks @Eulogy , I'll give that a read