Message by John Mosby, in tradworker, #tradworker
Anyway, have to get back to work.
I can talk more later if you would like.
I'm not understanding how a movement is dead when it gains more people everyday
Tyler is making a distinction between the reactionary "movement" and Revolutionary National Socialism.
@The Inquisitor [☧]
I have Italian blood and my cousin is Gian C. Gherardini, who commanded the 8th Regiment bersaglieri during the Africa Campaign.
that's pretty cool
I can agree that the Movement is dead. As David Tate said, "The Movement is Dead. Long Live the Cause!".
I think the movement was just napping a bit. 😀
Ha, read the David Tate article. He is just pretty much correlating the reactionaries, degenerates, and hollywood types with the movement. I think that is what Tyler was trying to say, too.
"Ask those same people to deﬁne “THE CAUSE” for which we ﬁght, and, in nearly every case, you will hear: “For the preservation of our Race.” The point should be clear: there is no movement. There is only THE CAUSE. By deﬁnition, a movement is: “a progression in a particular direction or toward a particular objective … a series of concerted organized activities or related events working toward or shaping some objective.” Among the prowhite movement there are so many varied objectives, so many diametrically opposing beliefs and views, that there is not one movement, but many movements. Among these movements there is only one similar Cause, and by deﬁnition a cause is: “a principle, ideal, goal, or movement to which a person or group is dedicated.” - David Tate
This is a perfect perspective on things, imo.
TWP is for the Cause, but we are our own unique Movement, none others share our "progression in a particular direction".
Not even the other NF groups?
LoS definitely has a separate movement, but some of the others are pretty close
I won't bash NF groups on here....
All I will say is that they are united with us in our defense of the Cause, but they are not the same Movement. TWP is 100% unique in our stance and, most importantly, our strategy and goals.
Which is what I mentioned a bit earlier and why I admire TWP.
Sorry if I offended u with my comments on AW...I try not to get into movement drama, or talking bad about groups. I think most groups serve a purpose in our overarching goals. There are a few groups that I absolutely hate, but I dont know enough about AW to put them on that list. I just get paranoid that there are a lot of feds either in it, or watching them, due to their history.
But it is what it is. I wont countersignal y'all anymore. I hope everyone who takes an honest stand for the Cause is successful.
There's a lot of complexity to it, but the biggest split in the movement is between reactionary conservatives who wish to market nationalism to the masses and national socialists who intend to lead the people with a vanguardist approach.
No offense taken, given our groups history you have every right to have those thoughts. @John Mosby
AtomWaffen is high energy. I like them.
I hadn't thought about things like that. Phrased that way I suppose I can see the movement being "dead". I tend to work along the same mindset. The entire reason I do what I do, obsessively research and basically live as an autist is because of my Children.
Sorry for being mouthy, Tyler. I disavow my /sigh.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, groups like TWP and AWD have different ways of operations though similar end goals. We sink this ship, you provide the lifeboats.
@Random_user dont worry about it, I only get mad when you insult the champions of our worldview. Hitler or Codreanu, etc.
Interesting way to put things, Tyler.
Sounds very peaceful and tolerant.
@parrott How do we assume a group like AW isn't totally Fed up?
What makes you think it is?
Simple: we are extremely careful with who is let in and who actually makes full membership.
Also we advocate reading the best "how not to go to jail" book for any national socialist.
Which book is that?
AWD is not fed-up.
James Mason's Siege.
Ah I see
How do we assume that this TWP Chat is not full of feds and leftists?