Surely we will never run out of conquerable land that we can give to soldiers so they can have farms and we can pay them entirely in promises.

Who are these Germans you speak of?

But letting people you conquer keep their individual national identity is fucking moronic

Surely, the slave owners will not subvert our entire economy and make all of that land we gave to soldiers effectively meaningless.

Yeah when you let sources of division exist.

And then exist in the capital

And then exist in the government.

Big laughs.

Haahha

>national identity
>in literal antiquity

Conquered Dacians weren't fully assimilated is a prime example of that Laure.

Same with Greeks and Gauls and just about everyone else they conquered.

^

Spain was different because it got to be colonized partially by Romans, and the locals there just kinda took well to Roman rule, but they still had differences.

It was also prime farming country though.

if the romans had just burned the Jewish books, we wouldnt be in this mess to begin with, but they let them keep practicing in exchange for money

The morons.

Yeah, they definitely weren't assimilated, mostly because there wasn't any ethnic Roman identity
It was more about citizenship thing which Rome fucked up greatly too

It's fuckin unreal how much the decisions of fucking Romans impact us today.

You know that Romans and the Chinese nearly met up?

They kind of did on one occasion iirc, but not like officially

The Chinese emperor wanted to send a diplomat to Rome but the Arabian middlemen told them it would take 2 years to get there.

They both knew about each other though

And they said "fuck that" and continued to trade through the middlemen.

Yeah

The Chinese called them the Da Chin.

Rome was like I'll get to that later

Da Qin iirc

But yeah

Fuckin Arabs

Sandniggers ruin everything.

And about Romans and assimilation - back in the antiquity and middle-ages it wasn't about being loyal to your ethnicity (beside few group like Jews), but rather to your overlord
Where Romans fucked up wasn't not forcing some kind of Roman identity upon conquered people
It was about letting the conquered people keep their social and military structures and their own military leaders
They were more loyal to their generals than to the state (though that was the thing everywhere in the SPQR even among the people of core provinces)

And the second thing kind of connected to this one is the wole citizenship thing, where only a small minority had Roman citizenship

Mhmm, the auxillaries were allowed to keep a lot of their own shit to cover what the Romans couldn't themselves.

Iirc the citizenship system was reformed later, but it was kind of too late and the reforms weren't radical enough

Yeah

That's what I'm talking about

The national identity wasn't this much of a problem, because these people often just didn't have one yet

Late Rome was hilarious in terms of how rich people flexed on people. They'd pay citizens and freedmen to follow them around.

And that was your job, to be a living clout point for this rich dude.

The most important thing is that Romans de facto let them create their own quasi-autonomous pseudo-states inside their empire