Message from @Tato
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The most important thing is that Romans de facto let them create their own quasi-autonomous pseudo-states inside their empire
Depends on the time in Rome.
Of course
Early Empire that wasn't exactly the case. Provinces were governed by senators appointed by Augustus/the emperor but the emperor could personally govern a handful of provinces himself at his choosing.
Which was basically wherever his legions were stationed.
That gets outsourced a bit after Trajan iirc, where dudes in charge of a legion would govern on the emperor's behalf.
Basically as the senators in Rome lose their grip of control over provinces, they get less Roman.
Is how that slope slipped.
Early Empire wasn't as bad as the late one, but still, everything turned to shit even a bit earlier, during the decadence of the Republic
When the Republic was overturned by Ceasar it was quite obvious that without real and deep reforms it's all gonna get burnt down at some point
The military was everything in Rome, but shit really hit the fan after Marcy Mark and they go full insanity mode with it and all republican tradition gets thrown out of the window in favor of full military control, which at that point had been a corrupt racket for a fat minute.
Yeah slavery was a big one.
Rome struggled with slavery fuckin forever.
The absolute worst economic policy for any nation, way to fucking subvert your own people's economic independence.
Yep
Like great, nobody has any fucking money. That's exactly where we are now.
We outsourced all of our work to 3rd world slaves.
Yeah, imo what has really shown how fucked up the Roman state is was when Ceasar seized the power
It showed that the power wasn't lying in the hands of the goverment and the state but in the hands of whoever was controling the most of the military
And it brought blacks here
Thanks white people
Of course.
And then there were all these civil wars
THE CAPTAINS OF THOSE SHIPS
WERE DUTCH JEWS
And the first American slave owner was black.
I think the empire starts showing cracks after Augustus.
Augustus gets the worst fucking end man.
Livia screws him over so hard.
HE DIDN'T DESERVE IT
Weird how the places with the most blacks was where the most slave owners lived
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Portugal?
Err
Brazil
I meant here
in the south
Yeah
literally like Georgia, Louisiana
I mean, not weird but it's funny that they chose not to leave.
All those southern colonies
Even after coming up the underground railroad to Canada.