Message from @U.N. Owen

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2019-11-04 19:41:43 UTC  

She was like a Tzar n shiet

2019-11-04 19:42:02 UTC  

we wus caesars and shiet

2019-11-04 19:43:25 UTC  

hate Russians so much they conquered and enslaved across an entire continent of beautiful Altaic cultures just so they could build concrete cube buildings over it, dump toxic waste in lakes, and ruin communism

2019-11-04 19:44:32 UTC  

>ruin communism
>like if it had to be ruined

2019-11-04 19:44:47 UTC  

I mean, it def could be somewhat better tbh

2019-11-04 19:45:09 UTC  

But yeah, Russians weren't as bad as Anglos

2019-11-04 19:45:24 UTC  

But they're still culture destroyers

2019-11-04 19:46:29 UTC  

communism could have been better without central planning

2019-11-04 19:46:48 UTC  

It's like
Define communism

2019-11-04 19:47:07 UTC  

Because you can be a socialist without being a communist

2019-11-04 19:48:08 UTC  

lowercase c communism and socialism are basically interchangeable unless you're talking about like mutualism or social democracy

2019-11-04 19:49:07 UTC  

NazBol best communism

2019-11-04 19:49:25 UTC  

Eh, not really
Communism imply trying to reach the muh stateless, classless, moneyless, somethingelseless society n shiet

2019-11-04 19:49:39 UTC  

nazbol is literally just Soviet communism with a palette swap

2019-11-04 19:49:43 UTC  

Communism is inherently utopian

2019-11-04 19:50:03 UTC  

>implying any of those things are bad

2019-11-04 19:50:18 UTC  

I'm a Strasserist so I dont mind tankies

2019-11-04 19:50:44 UTC  

I'm saying the Soviets were basically strasserist

2019-11-04 19:50:53 UTC  

No they weren't

2019-11-04 19:51:29 UTC  

USSR was extremely nationalist (which they disguised with class aesthetics) and cleansed entire ethnic populations (like the Crimean Tatars)

2019-11-04 19:51:29 UTC  

Stalinism is similar but not "basically the same"

2019-11-04 19:53:23 UTC  

Yeah, it's pretty funny how soviets turned so quickly from internationalism to nationalism

2019-11-04 19:53:28 UTC  

Same for demoluds

2019-11-04 19:54:13 UTC  

Honestly Hitler and stalin should have teamed up and crushed the anglos and Americans

2019-11-04 19:54:39 UTC  

I think America would have actually won that war

2019-11-04 19:55:01 UTC  

Highly disagree

2019-11-04 19:55:29 UTC  

American geography makes it so improbable that they'd win

2019-11-04 19:55:39 UTC  

They have teamed up and crushed Polin instead

2019-11-04 19:55:52 UTC  

They would have a hell of a time invading, but they would have been beaten so badly in European theatre they would have withdrew

2019-11-04 19:56:18 UTC  

Britain could be swept up, but crossing the Atlantic and Pacific would be quite the challenge.

2019-11-04 19:56:23 UTC  

plus you'd have two competing non-self-sufficient economies pitted against Americans in a way that they could be defeated solely by attrition

2019-11-04 19:56:24 UTC  

Since neither were particularly navally capable.

2019-11-04 19:56:38 UTC  

and also yeah neither of them had an effective navy

2019-11-04 19:57:09 UTC  

Germany would have to seize the British navy, or put the British tooled shipyards to work building basically an entirely new navy with carriers to land on American/Canadian shores.

2019-11-04 19:57:32 UTC  

And the Soviets would also need a pacific fleet, but I suppose Japan's serviceable in that department.

2019-11-04 19:57:39 UTC  

Or developed the nuke faster

2019-11-04 19:57:47 UTC  

Yeah, nuke DC.

2019-11-04 19:58:16 UTC  

The better option would probably be to island hop from Iceland to Greenland to Newfoundland/Labrador and invade into New England from Canada.

2019-11-04 19:58:36 UTC  

But that's all dense city fighting. Highly unpleasant.

2019-11-04 19:58:57 UTC  

So was stalingrad

2019-11-04 19:59:00 UTC  

Yeah.