Message from @Gyohdon

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2017-12-05 01:08:18 UTC  

most people have a "god"

2017-12-05 01:08:37 UTC  

a basis for truth or the foundation of their viewpoint

2017-12-05 01:10:20 UTC  

I'm not inclined that we can achieve 100% truth though. We'd need to become omniscient

2017-12-05 01:11:19 UTC  

sure, but what i'm saying is that each individual has some basis by which they validate truth

2017-12-05 01:11:28 UTC  

and that's their "god" so to speak

2017-12-05 01:13:03 UTC  

egalitarianism isn't a god, its not something we pray to, its a value that human beings have equal worth

2017-12-05 01:13:08 UTC  

not exactly a bad value to have

2017-12-05 01:16:39 UTC  

but when that idea of equal value is met with inequality in the real world, then it turns into religious dogma

2017-12-05 01:17:01 UTC  

if that inequality is a result of natural processes

2017-12-05 01:17:11 UTC  

like high IQ populations doing better in the world

2017-12-05 01:17:25 UTC  

it's being called white privilege by racial egalitarians

2017-12-05 01:17:40 UTC  

but white people just do better because they are smarter on average

2017-12-05 01:18:07 UTC  

Not sure how that relates to egalitarianism.

2017-12-05 01:18:42 UTC  

then i don't think you know what egalitarianism means

2017-12-05 01:19:00 UTC  

@Gyohdon that's progressiveism. They're looking for equality of outcome not equality of opprotunity

2017-12-05 01:19:14 UTC  

progressivism is a subclass of egalitarianism

2017-12-05 01:19:43 UTC  

They're pushing for quotas. That in no way is equality of opprotunity though

2017-12-05 01:20:03 UTC  

egalitarianism isnt just equality of opportunity

2017-12-05 01:22:24 UTC  

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, the term has two distinct definitions in modern English:[5] either as a political doctrine that all people should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social, and civil rights;[6] or as a social philosophy advocating the removal of economic inequalities among people, economic egalitarianism, or the decentralization of power. Some sources define egalitarianism as the point of view that equality reflects the natural state of humanity.

2017-12-05 01:22:59 UTC  

and all three of them are false

2017-12-05 01:23:13 UTC  

egalitarianism is a revolutionary philosophy and thus is completely false

2017-12-05 01:23:18 UTC  

It saying 2

2017-12-05 01:23:24 UTC  

Which is the 3rd?

2017-12-05 01:23:33 UTC  

"Some sources define egalitarianism as the point of view that equality reflects the natural state of humanity."

2017-12-05 01:23:35 UTC  

the last line

2017-12-05 01:26:08 UTC  

I'd subscribe more to the 1st than the 2nd or 3rd ones

2017-12-05 01:26:33 UTC  

so you think women should have the same rights as men?

2017-12-05 01:26:45 UTC  

Yes

2017-12-05 01:26:48 UTC  

disgusting

2017-12-05 01:26:50 UTC  

literally kys

2017-12-05 01:28:13 UTC  

racial egalitarians aren't egalitarians dude

2017-12-05 01:28:26 UTC  

because promoting one race over others isn't egalitarian

2017-12-05 01:28:28 UTC  

Equality of opprotunity provides for those who are better at the particular task to rise to the top. Doing so other wise limits potential and thus the economy

2017-12-05 01:28:42 UTC  

Pretty much true.

2017-12-05 01:29:01 UTC  

There's no real reason to specifically discriminate and disadvantage groups of people.

2017-12-05 01:29:07 UTC  

Individuals yes, but not huge groups.

2017-12-05 01:29:27 UTC  

Don't take that too literally.

2017-12-05 01:29:54 UTC  

race realism aside valuing the life of all human beings is still the right way to live

2017-12-05 01:30:12 UTC  

race realism is autistic though

2017-12-05 01:30:14 UTC  

you don't have to value their ideas, or philosophy but their right to lives

2017-12-05 01:30:17 UTC  

to live*