Like the leaf shit is probably better

But normal arc is def a step above like OR or any of them

I think leaf uses 3L gore or w/e

which breathes better

on their shells

nvm it's the same

I think the higher end civie arc shit is still good, they've been like expanding to more normie markets so I think they have cheaper options now maybe, but their higher end stuff is def still good

but would you rather have the **Alpha** jacket or the lowly *Beta*

😎

Like all the outdoor professional type dudes tend to run a lot of arc

I have a ""top of the line"" civie north face goretex and it's fucking ass

https://leaf.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/alpha-jacket-lt-gen-2

https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/beta-lt-jacket

Yeah North face stuff is pretty shit tier

falling apart everywhere I can't be fucked to fix the 40 different things that are wrong with it

Yep

I had a northface jacket

Got pissed at how shitty it was

Bought an arc jacket

its too bad I bought nods, alpha jackets are on sale for 300 usd right now

@Snowback what nods?

Kinda wanna fuck around and get a Naga

Really need the Cold WX tho

TD always has sales on them

Yeah gotta water for the big sales to grab arc stuff

@uzidead the blue ones

got my atom lt for $180

I think?

🤔

Yeah

that's what I got mine for

USEG 35% off

fuck now you guys have me thinking..

And that's what I'm waiting for for the Cold WX

alpha jacket for 300. Should I swipe the credit card?

gen 1 or 2

not that it really matters

gen 2

Get da Arc nigga

shit nevermind