To answer your other question, I think there's definitely a place for private institutions in the world. I don't think institutions and corporations should be treated as people though. The government should have the power to prevent corporations from depriving people of their rights or essential human needs

I believe there is a difference between not making a cake for a nazi and a gay wedding

There is good reason to refuse the gay wedding cake

Not the nazi cake

@America Billiards

???

You think there's more reason to refuse a gay wedding cake than a nazi cake?

Yes

Nazi cake is a cake for ideology, something that can be altered somewhat.

Being gay is not something you can choose.

Gayness isn't an ideology

Yes it can be chosen to act upon

Ok so you'd rather gay people be closeted?

You can be attracted to the same sex doesn't mean you have to act upon it.

When a married man in the street sees a pretty girl that isn't his wife he has a tendency to desire her but he holds himself back

Just because you have a tendency to do something doesn't mean you should always act upon it

Acting upon it is a choice

A choice many disagree with

Desiring the same sex is ok

But once it leads to gay marital relations then that's a problem

@America Billiards

Umm no. Says who?

I may not like how gays have sex but nothing I can do about it. I still refuse to call it marriage

Because it isn't marriage but a corruption of it

Says who? Why do you decide what is and is not marriage?

It doesn't hurt anyone.

Societies have fallen partially because of that reason

Source?

Rome Greece

Show me the correlation between the fall of Rome and Greece and homosexuality being accepted

Literature

History books

No show me evidence that acceptance of homosexuality in Rome and Greece led the fall of those civilizations

The point of marriage wasn't for lust

It's decreased morality

Simple

Which caused it to fall apart

Waiting for evidence

So too with American society

How do you know a gay couple marries for lust. How do you know they're even sexual?

There is a reasonable assumption that two people who are married have sex