Message from @Sawz

Discord ID: 367669056880377867


2017-10-11 13:43:33 UTC  

tu penses pouvoir faire de la rente immobilière dans une communauté ?

2017-10-11 13:43:35 UTC  

mais tu rêves !

2017-10-11 13:43:45 UTC  

We never said

2017-10-11 13:43:47 UTC  

estate such

2017-10-11 13:43:53 UTC  

Marx n'a jamais parlé de propriété privée des moyens de productions

2017-10-11 13:43:54 UTC  

True that the state grants houses

2017-10-11 13:43:59 UTC  

ok

2017-10-11 13:44:02 UTC  

donc c'est pas privé

2017-10-11 13:44:21 UTC  

Houses were never private

2017-10-11 13:44:26 UTC  

they were personal property

2017-10-11 13:44:31 UTC  

unless houses can generate income or money

2017-10-11 13:44:34 UTC  

then they can be considered

2017-10-11 13:44:36 UTC  

private property

2017-10-11 13:44:38 UTC  

just like factories

2017-10-11 13:44:46 UTC  

Even if Marx didn't why bother?

2017-10-11 13:45:00 UTC  

Le problème c'est qu'à un moment donné le communisme c'est radical, ça tranche complètement avec le capitalisme et son fonctionnement

2017-10-11 13:45:17 UTC  

Of course it naturally conflicts

2017-10-11 13:45:23 UTC  

it intends to overthrow one class from another

2017-10-11 13:45:25 UTC  

what do you expect?

2017-10-11 13:45:27 UTC  

A tea party?

2017-10-11 13:45:34 UTC  

Mais dans le communisme il n'y a pas de propriété, pas de valeur commerciale et monnaitaire des choses, il n'y a pas d'argent non plus

2017-10-11 13:45:50 UTC  

That's the end goal

2017-10-11 13:45:53 UTC  

The highest stage.

2017-10-11 13:46:01 UTC  

Except let's not focused on that part.

2017-10-11 13:46:03 UTC  

Parfait on y arrive

2017-10-11 13:46:13 UTC  

Perfect

2017-10-11 13:46:14 UTC  

nay

2017-10-11 13:46:14 UTC  

On parle de la dictature prolétaire alors ?

2017-10-11 13:46:19 UTC  

such words are too abstract

2017-10-11 13:46:25 UTC  

for to be put in marxist materialism

2017-10-11 13:46:35 UTC  

Proletarian dictatorship

2017-10-11 13:46:37 UTC  

what about it

2017-10-11 13:46:41 UTC  

It's the first stage

2017-10-11 13:46:43 UTC  

to take step

2017-10-11 13:46:52 UTC  

to take a foothold in a dominantly capitalistic world

2017-10-11 13:47:12 UTC  

On pas du "faisons table rase du passé" de Staline ? C'est ça le problème des bolcheviks : contre la nation, contre la religion, les frontières etc mais

2017-10-11 13:47:14 UTC  

Yes

2017-10-11 13:47:26 UTC  

What

2017-10-11 13:47:30 UTC  

agains't nation?

2017-10-11 13:47:38 UTC  

So far as I'm concerned communists are more nationalists

2017-10-11 13:47:41 UTC  

than capitalists