Well thays a gang violence and drug issue

Thats the argument here

well there is no such gang violence in germany

If you ban guns it won't stop gangsters running drugs from getting them

for me

Germany doesn't have as ouch potential for an illegal arms market nor the proximity to drug centers

the best _drug plan_ its
* decriminalize normal drug (cannabis/lsd..)
* hunt deadly drugs (aka krokodil)

We do have more deaths and gun violence in general im not denying that, but the argument is how bad it really is and what the source is

Gun control won't solve the issue as it isn't the root cause of anything and is hard to implement

well its WAY, WAY worse than in Europe

yeah it is

its kind of a given well have more because we have more guns

like more swimming pools means more drowning

but the questions you need to ask are what elements influence that number

them existing

yes but what else

niggers shooting niggers

why do state with harshest gun control and leftist policy have overwhelmingly more deaths than other ones

like LA niggers shooting themselves

whats the problem with mental tests

if you want to own a gun you should be mentally healthy

because mental health is a vague definition and doesnt have much to do with these gun deaths

it depends on the gun violence stats you reference

but assuming violent gun death doesnt include suicides (which it usually does), most of these gun crimes are commited involved gang violence

in which case mental health wont help

jesus crhist this website is so shit

i cant even see what their defginitions are

i dont really talk about these stats I dont care much I just say introduce mental health tests so things like these shootings in el paso could be avoided

those shootings are pretty much a statistical outlier

also dunno why do you have to allow selling automatics either thats just crazy, tehre should be a federal ban on these

this was semi auto i guess

you can buy semi auto ak in poland too

stfu with your outliers how many people have died in 2019 alone in mass shootings?

my unpopular opinion
* nobody demands to 'be sane' (if you're mental health issues you can get a gun)
* mental health its expensive
* if u can get a ar15 when u're buying food... you can get this

@rogalik you cant buy automatic

`The amount of mass shootings across the U.S. so far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group.`

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depends on what the definition of mass shooting is

a lot of statistics include any shooting with 3 or more deaths

which again could be from another thing like gang shootings

not your typical massacre you think of like in el paso