Message from Blebleh in /leftypol/ International #hindi


2017-05-20 00:14:56 UTC  

@PremYattani Anarcho-communism is extreme left, what don't you like about it?

2017-05-20 00:15:30 UTC  

Anarcho-capitalism is extreme right, right?

2017-05-20 00:15:38 UTC  

Yes

2017-05-20 00:15:54 UTC  

I have a problem with that label of left or right because I agree with what might be considered either

2017-05-20 00:15:59 UTC  

Everything based on it's own merit

2017-05-20 00:16:06 UTC  

Capitalism is hierarchic

2017-05-20 00:16:20 UTC  

capitalists need a state to enforce property

2017-05-20 00:16:49 UTC  

if you removed the state the workers would seize the means

2017-05-20 00:16:52 UTC  

@PremYattani do you support an abolition of the private property?

2017-05-20 00:17:18 UTC  

I think that there are natural heirarchies that will always manifest in society, also, I am against the idea of equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunit

2017-05-20 00:17:47 UTC  

I agree, so I like libertarian socialism

2017-05-20 00:17:52 UTC  

@Firefly I think that's a super intense question and to say yes causes a lot of problems

2017-05-20 00:17:56 UTC  

but I disagree about natural hierarchies

2017-05-20 00:18:18 UTC  

There can't be "to each according to his contribution" in capitalism

2017-05-20 00:18:25 UTC  

@PremYattani Men should not fear problems.

2017-05-20 00:18:39 UTC  

Natural heirarchies are heirarchies that arise out of say, a highly skilled engineer becoming a leader of an engineering committee or something @Blebleh

2017-05-20 00:18:49 UTC  

capitalists extract from the workers, and even in mutualism, they are subjugated to market distortion which would degenerate in capitalism

2017-05-20 00:18:51 UTC  

@Firefly I have no idea what that means dude 😂

2017-05-20 00:18:57 UTC  

I agree though

2017-05-20 00:19:00 UTC  

But yeah

2017-05-20 00:19:12 UTC  

@PremYattani these are just jobs

2017-05-20 00:19:13 UTC  

I definitely agree with marxist critique of capitalism

2017-05-20 00:19:18 UTC  

anarcho-communism isn't primitivism

2017-05-20 00:19:22 UTC  

Totally on point

2017-05-20 00:20:01 UTC  

Natural heirarchies exist all throughout nature tbh

2017-05-20 00:20:07 UTC  

Not just in humans

2017-05-20 00:20:11 UTC  

"Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought. In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker; concerning houses, canals, or railroads, I consult the architect or the engineer. For such special knowledge I apply to such a "savant." But I allow neither the bootmaker nor the architect nor the "savant" to impose his authority on me. I listen to them freely and with all the respect merited by their intelligence, their character, their knowledge, reserving always my incontestable right of criticism and censure. I do not content myself with consulting a single authority in any special branch; I consult several; I compare their opinions and choose that which seems to me soundest. But I recognize no infallable authority, even in special questions; consequently, whatever respect I may have for the honesty and the sincerity of an individual, I have no absolute faith in any person. Such a faith would be fatal to my reason, to my liberty, and even to the success of my undertakings; it would immediately transform me into a stupid slave, the tool of other people's will and interests."

2017-05-20 00:20:19 UTC  

-Bakunin

2017-05-20 00:20:43 UTC  

In any case

2017-05-20 00:20:50 UTC  

They don't call jobs hierarchies

2017-05-20 00:20:56 UTC  

I am a Sikh and my whole approach to politics is on the basis of Sikhi

2017-05-20 00:21:20 UTC  

Which I think is quite similar to what anarcho-communism seems to present

2017-05-20 00:21:28 UTC  

Hence, I am taking political science in uni

2017-05-20 00:21:48 UTC  

And trying to concentrate on that

2017-05-20 00:22:15 UTC  

which has bourgeois influences

2017-05-20 00:22:26 UTC  

hanna arendt with totalitarianism

2017-05-20 00:22:36 UTC  

neoclassic economics etc

2017-05-20 00:22:55 UTC  

I can't lie, I find marxist terminology to be pretty distaateful

2017-05-20 00:23:00 UTC  

Distasteful*

2017-05-20 00:23:13 UTC  

Such a bourgeois and such