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are PiS and PO
PO is less right wing than PiS
and PO is comparable with CDU
PO is pro European
Ah okay
probably similar to CSU
or worse I'm not sure
CSU was anti europe last election but pro EU this election. They are always whatever suits them xD
PiS is anti immigrant, anti LGBT, very christian
they are into muh poland sovereignty and want Europe of sovereign nation states
but also PiS is very different from like Le Pen's FN or AfD so dont compare
in the European family they are in the same grouping as Tories
ECR?
yes
tbh some of the Tory narrative resembles PiS
like with this whole Brexit thing the hurr durr 'will of the nation' etc
but again PiS would never ever openly back leaving the EU
they always deny they are anti Europe
because in Poland there is a very very high approval for the EU
like 80% +
but they want to reform Europe so national parliaments get more
oh also I should mention that
they butchered public media
public media here is almost Turkey/Russia tier
the TV at least
its disgusting
like in Hungary
And your judges, german media complains a lot about that even though our judge law has been more restricted since forever
yeah
these complaints are legitimate
PiS doesn't care about the rule of law
Yeah, just strange they come from us xD
high profile PiS politician once said that will of the nation is above the law
dont remember who was that exactly maybe the president even
Well somehow he's right, the will of nation makes the law in the first place, but yeah not a good thing to say
meh i think even such thinking is very very dangerous
I'm very much pro liberal democracy
with the rule of law and checks and balances
Fully agree on that.
so if you have politicians undermining those principles it can very quickly descend even further