Message from @Luckbot

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2019-05-26 19:29:40 UTC  

are PiS and PO

2019-05-26 19:29:48 UTC  

PO is less right wing than PiS

2019-05-26 19:29:53 UTC  

and PO is comparable with CDU

2019-05-26 19:30:04 UTC  

PO is pro European

2019-05-26 19:30:17 UTC  

Ah okay

2019-05-26 19:30:21 UTC  

probably similar to CSU

2019-05-26 19:30:29 UTC  

or worse I'm not sure

2019-05-26 19:30:55 UTC  

CSU was anti europe last election but pro EU this election. They are always whatever suits them xD

2019-05-26 19:30:57 UTC  

PiS is anti immigrant, anti LGBT, very christian

2019-05-26 19:31:29 UTC  

they are into muh poland sovereignty and want Europe of sovereign nation states

2019-05-26 19:31:55 UTC  

but also PiS is very different from like Le Pen's FN or AfD so dont compare

2019-05-26 19:32:22 UTC  

in the European family they are in the same grouping as Tories

2019-05-26 19:33:15 UTC  

ECR?

2019-05-26 19:34:05 UTC  

yes

2019-05-26 19:34:36 UTC  

tbh some of the Tory narrative resembles PiS

2019-05-26 19:34:49 UTC  

like with this whole Brexit thing the hurr durr 'will of the nation' etc

2019-05-26 19:34:59 UTC  

but again PiS would never ever openly back leaving the EU

2019-05-26 19:35:10 UTC  

they always deny they are anti Europe

2019-05-26 19:35:16 UTC  

because in Poland there is a very very high approval for the EU

2019-05-26 19:35:24 UTC  

like 80% +

2019-05-26 19:35:28 UTC  

Whoa nice

2019-05-26 19:35:55 UTC  

but they want to reform Europe so national parliaments get more

2019-05-26 19:36:04 UTC  

oh also I should mention that

2019-05-26 19:36:09 UTC  

they butchered public media

2019-05-26 19:36:19 UTC  

public media here is almost Turkey/Russia tier

2019-05-26 19:36:27 UTC  

the TV at least

2019-05-26 19:36:30 UTC  

its disgusting

2019-05-26 19:36:36 UTC  

like in Hungary

2019-05-26 19:36:41 UTC  

And your judges, german media complains a lot about that even though our judge law has been more restricted since forever

2019-05-26 19:36:49 UTC  

yeah

2019-05-26 19:37:01 UTC  

these complaints are legitimate

2019-05-26 19:37:11 UTC  

PiS doesn't care about the rule of law

2019-05-26 19:37:16 UTC  

Yeah, just strange they come from us xD

2019-05-26 19:37:24 UTC  

high profile PiS politician once said that will of the nation is above the law

2019-05-26 19:37:52 UTC  

dont remember who was that exactly maybe the president even

2019-05-26 19:38:04 UTC  

Well somehow he's right, the will of nation makes the law in the first place, but yeah not a good thing to say

2019-05-26 19:38:34 UTC  

meh i think even such thinking is very very dangerous

2019-05-26 19:38:39 UTC  

I'm very much pro liberal democracy

2019-05-26 19:38:44 UTC  

with the rule of law and checks and balances

2019-05-26 19:38:56 UTC  

Fully agree on that.

2019-05-26 19:39:25 UTC  

so if you have politicians undermining those principles it can very quickly descend even further