Message from @The First Productive Forces

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2019-10-03 00:23:10 UTC  

me and kin/poni are in a lesbian relationship

2019-10-03 00:23:15 UTC  

oh alright

2019-10-03 00:23:16 UTC  

Yes but competition =/= capitalism

2019-10-03 00:23:37 UTC  

The young and old and sick were taken care of =/= communism either

2019-10-03 00:23:40 UTC  

The individual tribes themselves were communist

2019-10-03 00:23:46 UTC  

Yes but that's not the only thing

2019-10-03 00:24:12 UTC  

They were stateless, classless, no currency or private property, no markets, no commodity production etc

2019-10-03 00:24:42 UTC  

and almost went extinct several times

2019-10-03 00:24:57 UTC  

Due to natural disasters

2019-10-03 00:25:05 UTC  

i can give u proto-communist

2019-10-03 00:25:14 UTC  

so do you want to revert us to a hunter-gatherer era

2019-10-03 00:25:16 UTC  

but not communist

2019-10-03 00:25:18 UTC  

Or primitive communism as Marx described it

2019-10-03 00:25:25 UTC  

@rogalik no of course not

2019-10-03 00:25:36 UTC  

The goal is to advance to socialism and then finally to developed communism

2019-10-03 00:25:37 UTC  

because you cant have a proper civilization, culture, technology, education, literacy etc without the state

2019-10-03 00:25:48 UTC  

whats your opinion on social democracy

2019-10-03 00:25:53 UTC  

im a social democrat 🌹

2019-10-03 00:26:07 UTC  

The state is kept around and the superfluous functions wither away over time after full communism is achieved

2019-10-03 00:26:17 UTC  

There is still governance, just not a bourgeois capitalist state

2019-10-03 00:26:51 UTC  

Social democracy comes from a good place, but is ultimately insufficient at solving the real issue which is capitalism itself

2019-10-03 00:27:25 UTC  

Many socdem states have been having financial troubles and have been even rolling back welfare and programs

2019-10-03 00:27:49 UTC  

The bourg is still ultimately in control in a socdem system and can dismantle the system if they see it fit

2019-10-03 00:27:54 UTC  

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2019-10-03 00:31:26 UTC  

oh ok

2019-10-03 00:32:04 UTC  
2019-10-03 00:32:09 UTC  

.gay

2019-10-03 00:32:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427861399008575499/629113430531637248/gay.png

2019-10-03 00:32:36 UTC  

How dare you desecrate Marshal Voroshilov's image like that

2019-10-03 00:32:43 UTC  

who

2019-10-03 00:32:55 UTC  

@rogalik here's a good video explaining the withering away of the state

2019-10-03 00:33:08 UTC  

a fin

2019-10-03 00:33:12 UTC  

@ٴٴٴٴٴ Marshal Voroshilov

2019-10-03 00:33:13 UTC  

>pooh/10

2019-10-03 00:33:19 UTC  

First Marshal of the Soviet Union

2019-10-03 00:33:28 UTC  

Are there any gamer girls here

2019-10-03 00:33:37 UTC  

yes

2019-10-03 00:33:51 UTC  

Really? Who?

2019-10-03 00:33:58 UTC  

the Soviet what