Message from @Delta Orion

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2018-05-06 05:59:48 UTC  

anyways, the quality of life for many improved quite well under socialism in many countries

2018-05-06 06:00:11 UTC  

Yes, they all got to be sent to gulag

2018-05-06 06:00:14 UTC  

saying many because there are certainly places where it failed, and i'm partial to that of the libertarian variety myself

2018-05-06 06:00:23 UTC  

even in places without gulags

2018-05-06 06:00:47 UTC  

in revolutionary catalonia, production and overall standard of living improved greatly for the majority of people

2018-05-06 06:00:59 UTC  

i know that sounds dubious, so i'm going to dig up a citation real quick

2018-05-06 06:01:01 UTC  

gimme a sec

2018-05-06 06:01:03 UTC  

okie

2018-05-06 06:02:04 UTC  

i have it in a book, and there's a preview on amazon but i'm not sure how far it goes

2018-05-06 06:02:10 UTC  

so i'll see if i can find alternate docs

2018-05-06 06:02:11 UTC  

Its probably true, communism always works at the start, until the government runs out of money

2018-05-06 06:03:59 UTC  

not necessarily, my good man

2018-05-06 06:04:26 UTC  

as you can see here, the USSR had the second highest growing economy as of 1970

2018-05-06 06:04:39 UTC  

second only to japan, which you've gotta admit is pretty darn impressive

2018-05-06 06:05:08 UTC  

how is the growth measured in that graph

2018-05-06 06:05:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/442567624438579200/Soviet_Union_USSR_GDP_per_capita.png

2018-05-06 06:05:56 UTC  

gdp per head

2018-05-06 06:06:03 UTC  

okie

2018-05-06 06:06:10 UTC  

well this graph here shows a different picture

2018-05-06 06:06:16 UTC  

measuring the gdp per head/capita

2018-05-06 06:06:48 UTC  

it might have been measuring by percentage of growth rate

2018-05-06 06:07:20 UTC  

this is also a neat read for sustained economic growth in the ussr

2018-05-06 06:08:21 UTC  

okie i'll have a read tonight

2018-05-06 06:08:43 UTC  

it is pretty interesting, i genuine recommend it

2018-05-06 06:08:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/442568383838552064/compar1.png

2018-05-06 06:08:57 UTC  

this is also a somewhat telling graph

2018-05-06 06:09:13 UTC  

note the dropoff in calories riiight after glasnost and perestroika were introduced

2018-05-06 06:09:22 UTC  

From the backwater of the world to a world power

2018-05-06 06:09:33 UTC  

In 20 years

2018-05-06 06:09:36 UTC  

it's really incredibly impressive, if you ask me

2018-05-06 06:10:08 UTC  

Admittedly the communists did manage to bring the country out from a feudal backward poor country to something in the world stage

2018-05-06 06:10:17 UTC  

That being said communism is pretty much surperior to feudalism

2018-05-06 06:10:27 UTC  

i think just about anything is, lol

2018-05-06 06:10:31 UTC  

and absolute monarchies

2018-05-06 06:10:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/442568909577781248/S80506-181038.jpg

2018-05-06 06:10:56 UTC  

Roast me too

2018-05-06 06:11:21 UTC  

blog post, but with plentiful sources

2018-05-06 06:11:27 UTC  

However if that had a gradual transformation from a feudal monarchy to a liberal western demoacracy then I feel as if they would have done better in the long run