Message from @🖤 Limeboo 🖤

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2018-05-06 06:09:22 UTC  

From the backwater of the world to a world power

2018-05-06 06:09:33 UTC  

In 20 years

2018-05-06 06:09:36 UTC  

it's really incredibly impressive, if you ask me

2018-05-06 06:10:08 UTC  

Admittedly the communists did manage to bring the country out from a feudal backward poor country to something in the world stage

2018-05-06 06:10:17 UTC  

That being said communism is pretty much surperior to feudalism

2018-05-06 06:10:27 UTC  

i think just about anything is, lol

2018-05-06 06:10:31 UTC  

and absolute monarchies

2018-05-06 06:10:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/442568909577781248/S80506-181038.jpg

2018-05-06 06:10:56 UTC  

Roast me too

2018-05-06 06:11:21 UTC  

blog post, but with plentiful sources

2018-05-06 06:11:27 UTC  

However if that had a gradual transformation from a feudal monarchy to a liberal western demoacracy then I feel as if they would have done better in the long run

2018-05-06 06:12:01 UTC  

8values didn't work so I did politiscales

2018-05-06 06:12:09 UTC  

i can't say i concur, the data seems to show that once they began to introduce reforms such as glasnost and perestroika they began to decline

2018-05-06 06:12:12 UTC  

wait

2018-05-06 06:12:16 UTC  

lemme check out that graph

2018-05-06 06:12:44 UTC  

okie

2018-05-06 06:12:51 UTC  

yep, again it seems to show the same thing

2018-05-06 06:13:11 UTC  

it looks rather stagnate though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/442569499649245186/all19301.png

2018-05-06 06:13:27 UTC  

D-did you see my s-scales

2018-05-06 06:13:43 UTC  

Still doing better than quite a few asian countries\

2018-05-06 06:13:45 UTC  

i think one discrepancy might be because of the nature of the soviet economic system, namely how it wasn't really intended to generate capital to be effective in a competitive marketplace, but rather something to support its people

2018-05-06 06:13:48 UTC  

wait

2018-05-06 06:13:52 UTC  

lemme check out those scales

2018-05-06 06:14:25 UTC  

looks good 2 me

2018-05-06 06:15:47 UTC  

Whew

2018-05-06 06:16:20 UTC  

wikipedia, i know, but the stuff on birth rates and life expectancy is quite interesting and cited

2018-05-06 06:17:45 UTC  

i need to start compiling all of my sources into a gdoc

2018-05-06 06:19:50 UTC  

@Delta Orion it would have been nothing short of a miracle for the Soviet economy to match the US one, considering how the latter has a higher population and started its industrialization centuries before Russia did.

During the Great Depression what was surprising was how all of the staunchly capitalist Great Powers (US, UK, France) were basically on their knees, with incredibly high unemployment, virtually no growth and the social maladies that appear whenever these two are present.

Meanwhile, the USSR was posting gains and beginning its brutally harsh industrialization. The Soviet economy, completely isolated from world markets, was able no navigate the 1930's untouched by the troubles that the capitalist countries were experiencing.

2018-05-06 06:20:36 UTC  

Spare me your cherrypicked bullshit capitalist

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/442571367896842241/46036d6dd1268b692c1a707a5fdb3b19aa0a8f139e0c706db97c542917cc8633.png

2018-05-06 06:21:32 UTC  

another interesting sidenote: most of those countries only managed to maintain a capitalist economic system by embracing keynesianism, which eventually led to a great slowdown in the 1970s

2018-05-06 06:22:02 UTC  

True the soviet economy was very unlikely to reach the U.S economy, so therefore it would be more fair to compare the growth rates of the two nations

2018-05-06 06:22:23 UTC  

the capitalist system can only survive when people are viewed as sources of capital acquisition and not when they are viewed, as, well, human beings.

2018-05-06 06:22:53 UTC  

also

2018-05-06 06:22:56 UTC  

completely off topic

2018-05-06 06:23:06 UTC  

gimme danger is the most fun song to practice on guitar

2018-05-06 06:23:16 UTC  

Due to low contact with the rest of the world the soviets were barely affected by the great depressions

2018-05-06 06:23:19 UTC  

depression*

2018-05-06 06:23:21 UTC  

just wanted to put that out there