lmao youre talking out of your ass right now

everyone owns the means of production

that means they own you

*but they dont*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy

ok then it's not communism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

yeah, it still is

youre just retarded mate

you are not free under communism

you will work night and day for other people till you die

yes you are lol

no retirement

and no you dont

eternal slavery

youre literally making shit up right now

how do you think it will work then?

read up on the theories of lenin and trotsky to know how i think it will work

lets talk pragmatism

lenin didnt just go "ur all my slaves now lol"

reality, get your head out of the clouds

you first mate

communism never existed am I right?

did i ever say that?

im just asking you

no youre not

did we ever reach the final stage of it?

communism existed in Ukraine and the CNT-FAI, but was snuffed out by foreign powers

scapegoat

socialism existed in the USSR, China, Cuba, etc

ok but Communism never existed

what do you mean scapegoat

i literally just said it did

you always blame others for it's failure

https://www.google.com/search?q=spanish+civil+war&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS805US805&oq=spanish+civil+war&aqs=chrome..69i57j35i39j0l4.4367j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

NIGGA

that's anarcho-communism

***thats what the end goal is mate***

lol really

you know why they were successful in the beginning?

wow you really dont know shit do you