Message from @AEling

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2019-01-07 20:32:18 UTC  

yep - the spartans of the africa as someone called them

2019-01-07 20:32:55 UTC  

they even managed to defeat brits in one battle

2019-01-07 20:33:00 UTC  

Also the mali people

2019-01-07 20:33:04 UTC  

thats impressive

2019-01-07 20:33:10 UTC  

They got lucky lol

2019-01-07 20:33:19 UTC  

And large numbers

2019-01-07 20:33:41 UTC  

brits uderestimate Zulu and overestimated themselves

2019-01-07 20:33:42 UTC  

They simply had no chance against the british with spears and wooden shields

2019-01-07 20:34:17 UTC  

People jack off the british empire but they actually sucked

2019-01-07 20:34:28 UTC  

“Eleven days after the British commenced their invasion of Zululand in South Africa, a Zulu force of some 20,000 warriors attacked a portion of the British main column consisting of about 1,800 British, colonial and native troops and perhaps 400 civilians.”

2019-01-07 20:35:18 UTC  

It gets touted as “simple tribesmen annihilated weak european colonizers!”
but really it’s more like “african warlord threw his entire army at a single platoon and called it a victory”

2019-01-07 20:36:28 UTC  

and it was basically just the first real encounter, so they had the element of surprise
but as soon as the Brits regrouped, it was obviously over very quickly
and that’s why South Africans speak almost-British English now

2019-01-07 20:37:43 UTC  

wiki says about 50% africanos

2019-01-07 20:38:17 UTC  

yeah, they’ve definitely started taking it back
good on em

2019-01-07 20:38:35 UTC  

and part where zulus lived uses native language

2019-01-07 20:38:51 UTC  

its because Bur's took over there

2019-01-07 20:40:16 UTC  

the language bit was a joke
my point was the brits won in the end, and the zulu victory is less a story of “david standing up to goliath” and more like “david and 10 of his mates bumrushing goliath when he wasn’t looking and then inevitably getting their asses kicked once goliath’s 20 friends showed up”

2019-01-07 20:41:06 UTC  

ah underdeveloped african tribe lost a war against sorld superpower how unpredictable

2019-01-07 20:42:42 UTC  

I’m just mentioning it because like
I never heard the rest of that story growing up
every time i heard about Shaka Zulu, it was as a brave warrior who was so ferocious, he managed to stop the invasion of his home with nothing but leather shields and iron clubs

2019-01-07 20:43:13 UTC  

nah its not like that

2019-01-07 20:43:14 UTC  

and then i looked him up when i was a little older, and realized nearly his entire tribe got *fucked* as soon as that battle was over

2019-01-07 20:43:29 UTC  

zulus had no chance

2019-01-07 20:43:37 UTC  

in a long run

2019-01-07 20:43:49 UTC  

yeah

2019-01-07 20:43:52 UTC  

but they fought as good as they could

2019-01-07 20:43:56 UTC  

but they don’t tell you that as a kid

2019-01-07 20:44:09 UTC  

Oh yeah, they did a good job for what they had, good on em

2019-01-07 20:44:11 UTC  

its like fighting an Alliance from HL2

2019-01-07 20:44:38 UTC  

the whole resitance thing is just like minkeys fighting in a deep forest

2019-01-07 20:44:55 UTC  

i think it was fucked up of the British to just take the whole region like that
and I think the Zulus did what they could for as long as they could, as they should
but then, I’ve never been a fan of colonialism anyways

2019-01-07 20:45:10 UTC  

Alliance is busy with bulding Dyson Spheres

2019-01-07 20:45:15 UTC  

only Americans are allowed to Manifest our Destiny

2019-01-07 20:45:38 UTC  

everyone else needs to stay where they are and wait for us to get to them next

2019-01-07 20:45:51 UTC  

they will go away as every major force before them

2019-01-07 20:46:08 UTC  

nothing is ethernal

2019-01-07 20:46:10 UTC  

I know, just meming

2019-01-07 20:46:23 UTC  

I think America is probably as big as a nation can sustainably be, really

2019-01-07 20:46:32 UTC  

like, geographically

2019-01-07 20:46:51 UTC  

anything bigger and you get too thin-spread, it all falls apart in a century or two

2019-01-07 20:46:52 UTC  

china is kinda big too

2019-01-07 20:47:04 UTC  

Yeah, they’re doing good as well