Message from @Firefly

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2019-03-07 04:04:00 UTC  

Yes, although as everything, it has different forms. Idealist or Materialist.

2019-03-07 04:04:52 UTC  

Yes.

2019-03-07 04:05:41 UTC  

materialism is retarded

2019-03-07 04:05:53 UTC  

the idea that only the material affects me therefore only the material matters is dumb

2019-03-07 04:05:58 UTC  

I think an idealist form of an authoritarian socialism must follow the left-wing authority in socialism.

2019-03-07 04:06:04 UTC  

Agreed but retarded wouldnโ€™t be the word

2019-03-07 04:06:11 UTC  

super retarded might be

2019-03-07 04:06:54 UTC  

I just donโ€™t like it or agree with it thatโ€™s all

2019-03-07 04:07:17 UTC  
2019-03-07 04:08:10 UTC  

the main justification for materialism is that a person doesn't believe in that which doesn't have observable or measurable properties. hence a materialist doesn't believe in supernatural beings or separate mental substances. and yet for there to be observation in the first place, there has to be perception, and perception is by definition a mental process. the very starting point of the materialist position is a mental event, and the position that "I only believe in that which I can observe" can lead at best (from the materialist viewpoint) to a Kantian Phenomena/Noumena dualism, and at worst to a Berkeleyan "all is in the mind" idealism. hence materialism refutes itself by the very fact that it requires an idealist starting point.

2019-03-07 04:08:42 UTC  

Science already capable to go further without idealism at all.

2019-03-07 04:08:51 UTC  

But people like this state of mind.

2019-03-07 04:08:53 UTC  

Yeah

2019-03-07 04:12:42 UTC  

materialism has already been disproven by quantum physics

2019-03-07 04:14:33 UTC  

Do you think quantum physics is an idealist concept? @ashoka

2019-03-07 04:19:50 UTC  

not necessarily, but it proves that idealism is correct

2019-03-07 04:20:04 UTC  

at least the double slit expirement did

2019-03-07 04:21:48 UTC  

So it is idealist?

2019-03-07 04:22:01 UTC  

Interesting to know, thank you.

2019-03-07 04:22:42 UTC  

We agree on that too.

2019-03-07 04:22:47 UTC  

Is funny.

2019-03-07 04:23:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/553070075268300800/0GAXcl9.png

2019-03-07 04:37:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/553073603734929408/e914040ff7b409986a92f71103f57c56.png

2019-03-07 04:37:50 UTC  

youre such a fuckin hoe

2019-03-07 04:37:52 UTC  

I love it

2019-03-07 04:38:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/553073866528784385/2073340_4.png

2019-03-07 04:38:29 UTC  

No glasses

2019-03-07 04:40:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/553074378028482580/image0-14.jpg

2019-03-07 04:40:19 UTC  

Whoa father

2019-03-07 04:40:27 UTC  

I have glasses

2019-03-07 04:40:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/553074488443666443/JPEG_20190306_183403.jpg

2019-03-07 04:40:42 UTC  

IRL as well

2019-03-07 04:41:11 UTC  

Contacts gang

2019-03-07 04:41:17 UTC  

Thinking deeply about it, so did Trotsky

2019-03-07 04:41:33 UTC  

๐Ÿค”

2019-03-07 04:43:30 UTC  

Also, meanwhile

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/553075230743068682/20190306_170902.png

2019-03-07 04:44:29 UTC  

i started reading in the dark so i could get blurry vision

2019-03-07 04:44:37 UTC  

so my parents would buy me glasses

2019-03-07 04:44:39 UTC  

Why

2019-03-07 04:44:46 UTC  

ended up having 20/20 vision and being... this

2019-03-07 04:44:58 UTC  

turns out the first book i read was the communist manifesto