Message from @jaruspk
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besides that there was going on proces to make ukraine a comonwealth state
Most Ukrainians didnt want that
If you mean eruomaidan
i mean the whole cultural divide with rightedge and leftedge ukraine
rightedge was allways more pro west :registered cossacks, then guys that fighted in Kościuszko Uprising, and both polish national uprising
they wanted return of the commonwealth times
That's the deep history I don't know about
leftedge Golden Orde and Chmielnicki guys, then Don cossacks that stood with Russians empire=>RAD=>ZSSR along the way in XVIII and XIX
and when this country get his independence without any bigger nation at his back they allways starsts to fight each other\
Well most of the modern shit going on is due to natioins meddling in their affairs
Middle East, Asia, eastern Europe
1920=> first Rad then Poles intervention becuse they started to rip each other throats
1939-1940=> Hitler give some freedom and ZSSR backed the other side same situation with divide of the nation
Even fucking Napoleon didnt wanted to create free ukraine in his eyes the nation that cant withstand cultural changes and stood up is not worth a country
The whole history of the ukraine is always connected with russians as their suveren or Poles/other western country like Austro-Hungarian empire
and when they actually get independence shit went down very fast
So in historical way in big scope this country have two options that are allways poping up be splited in half or be whole as part of bigger country
As I've said
I support a free Ukraine
In the basis of anti globalism
Every nation belongs to those that live in their borders
and that last one is false
Ukrainians couldnt withstand changes and they selfgoverned themsefles for only 1 century summarised in compiration to the Polish nation that opose change (100yers+ of slavary in heands of other nations) and restored country that still exists Ukraine have no right to exist in current form so im backing the side that have more chance to restor the natural way of borders in that region
there is no fucking fight against globalism, in hong were one but its lost
saying that supports something becuse of antiglobalism is like suporting osama binlaben becuse of american globalism
Not really but ok
I'm against America being in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm against our involvement in Syria
It ain't our fight
Yeah? what about this whole Pax Americana bullshit
but you are supporting usa involvment(trade and suppiles) in ukraine?
and NATO bases in europe
Not really
I'd rather we pull out altogether
But that's not gonna happen
yeah but you know that if us pull from ukraine it will be like in 1920
sounds good to me
russia will be happy
poland will have oportunity to get back its native terretories
probably there will be quasi state that is EU colony
and Some azovs fuckers will be hangd or imprisoned by 256 par.
yeah king GlOrY tO HeRoEs and lets pull Usa monay from region
Thank you for disscus
I just can't believe you're a boot licker for the Russians
no king i dont like them equaly as ukrainians and germans but they have chance to restor natural order
Us and EU with this bullshit state don't
Meh
@jaruspk where yah from I'm confused ?
That's why eastern Europe is the way it is
Russian interference
ok citizen of the country that licks China, Israel, and Russian boots
@mcguyver123 Poland or whats left of it xD