Message from @Spergerger

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2019-12-11 21:21:36 UTC  

According to the Russian historian Boris Vadimovich Sokolov, Lend-Lease had a crucial role in winning the war:


On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the German invaders, since it could not itself produce sufficient quantities of arms and military equipment or adequate supplies of fuel and ammunition. The Soviet authorities were well aware of this dependency on Lend-Lease. Thus, Stalin told Harry Hopkins [FDR's emissary to Moscow in July 1941] that the U.S.S.R. could not match Germany's might as an occupier of Europe and its resources.[32]

2019-12-11 21:21:49 UTC  

lmao

2019-12-11 21:22:03 UTC  

What does he base that claim on?

2019-12-11 21:22:10 UTC  

I’d like to see some numbers

2019-12-11 21:22:26 UTC  

Like even following your idiotic argument

2019-12-11 21:22:35 UTC  

Your ideology getting gangbanged

2019-12-11 21:22:36 UTC  

Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs:


I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war.

2019-12-11 21:22:40 UTC  

lmao

2019-12-11 21:22:43 UTC  

Is pretty detrimental to it

2019-12-11 21:23:10 UTC  

Krustchev literally had prime interest in making Stalin look as bad as possible my dude

2019-12-11 21:23:23 UTC  

He’s not a reliable source for that

2019-12-11 21:24:01 UTC  

Joseph Stalin, during the Tehran Conference during 1943, acknowledged publicly the importance of American efforts during a dinner at the conference: "Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war."[42][43]


In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin Simonov, the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov is quoted as saying:


Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.[44]

2019-12-11 21:24:07 UTC  

from stalin himself lol

2019-12-11 21:24:33 UTC  

That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have beaten them lmao

2019-12-11 21:24:48 UTC  

Would’ve been a hella lotta more bloody

2019-12-11 21:24:56 UTC  

Also again

2019-12-11 21:25:19 UTC  

germans would have just taken moscow then secure baku then allies would have sued for peace

2019-12-11 21:25:22 UTC  

Your ideology getting gangbanged by the rest of the world isn’t really saying too much good bout it

2019-12-11 21:25:25 UTC  

How?

2019-12-11 21:25:38 UTC  

America had nukes

2019-12-11 21:25:45 UTC  

not at that time lol

2019-12-11 21:25:45 UTC  

Enjoy wasteland Berlin

2019-12-11 21:26:11 UTC  

Ok Mr warlord

2019-12-11 21:26:12 UTC  

and it wasnt guaranteed
even the leaders had doubts

2019-12-11 21:26:26 UTC  

Show me some numbers

2019-12-11 21:26:28 UTC  

@Spergerger mate c’mon you know it’s just a bait hook

2019-12-11 21:26:30 UTC  

they would not bet their countries on nonexistant weapons

2019-12-11 21:26:36 UTC  

Show me some numbers

2019-12-11 21:26:47 UTC  

For the soviets not being able to beat em

2019-12-11 21:27:36 UTC  

im enjoying presenting this idiot communist some fax and logic @Enkrum
the lend lease page has a big section with resources breakdown if you care @Gromp

2019-12-11 21:27:54 UTC  

Well then link it to me lol

2019-12-11 21:27:57 UTC  

Can’t be too hard

2019-12-11 21:28:19 UTC  

Also your dumbass leader couldn’t even take Britain lol

2019-12-11 21:28:22 UTC  

So much for that

2019-12-11 21:28:56 UTC  

its on the page i linked above, the wiki

2019-12-11 21:29:09 UTC  

What wiki?

2019-12-11 21:29:19 UTC  

u trollin nigga

2019-12-11 21:29:22 UTC  

I’m not

2019-12-11 21:29:25 UTC  

Are you seriously debating in <#587115763106840576>

2019-12-11 21:29:26 UTC  

Where is the wiki

2019-12-11 21:29:32 UTC  

Move to <#587015719141507102> or <#587028275918929925>