Are these permanent? Or is their ways to move from one to the other (up or down)?

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@Maksim

you know what this isnt the right chat for this

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Ill post it in ujgmmmm

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<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝

- What is your opinion on freedom biblically? Are we called to be free, are there limits, or should people be strictly controlled?

1 Corinthians 6:12

**1 Corinthians 6:12 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<12> All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. ```

Galatians 5:13

**Galatians 5:13 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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<13> As for you, my friends, you were called to be free. But do not let this freedom become an excuse for letting your physical desires control you. Instead, let love make you serve one another. ```

We are given freedom by God but we must not be corrupted by this gift

1 Corinthians 6:12

**1 Corinthians 6:12 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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Use Your Bodies for God's Glory

<12> Someone will say, "I am allowed to do anything." Yes; but not everything is good for you. I could say that I am allowed to do anything, but I am not going to let anything make me its slave. ```

A man is given his agency so that he can choose what life to live, to follow Christ or not. That freedom is a gift but we are expected to accept the consequences for our actions. You cannot sin and feign ignorance, look to Cain to see how well that played out.

Ah

That raises the question of what of the people whom have never heard of Christ

To which I say

Romans 1:18-20

**Romans 1:18-20 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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Human Guilt

<18> God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known. <19> God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. <20> Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! ```

I believe that religous freedom is important, specifically the freedom to practice, since it allows Christians to follow their beliefs as they see fit. However, if a sect openly commits crimes against nature they are subject to the rulers of the land.

@Crazed Shotgun what do u think of people who accuse Christianity of just being a money scam

Depends on what they mean, are they accusing a particular sect/church or the faith as a whole?

As a whole

2 Corinthians 10:2

**2 Corinthians 10:2 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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<2> I beg you not to force me to be harsh when I come; for I am sure I can deal harshly with those who say that we act from worldly motives. ```

Then they are in the wrong, people give finances to churches so that they may continue to maintain their place of worship.

Absolutely

I don't doubt however that there are wolves in sheep clothing among us

Joel Osteen is an example

There may be some Televangelists who sell their products, and that guy who said the world would end on 12 21 12

Those are scammers, but it is the fault of unquestioning sheep that become swindled by cunning predators, not Christ.

Allow your faith to guide you, not blind you

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

**2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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<3> Do not let anyone deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until the final Rebellion takes place and the Wicked One appears, who is destined to hell. <4> He will oppose every so-called god or object of worship and will put himself above them all. He will even go in and sit down in God's Temple and claim to be God. ```

tfw when an egotistical athiest will be the bringer of the end times @Crazed Shotgun

KJV sounds way better

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

@Crazed Shotgun to each their own, I prefer a version I where I can fully understand what each word means

I want to learn german so I can read an earlier translation of the bible, I think the less we translate and closer we get to the original text, the better context provided and interpretations found.