Message from @Riley

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2019-11-18 18:24:24 UTC  

there isnt evidence for this

2019-11-18 18:24:32 UTC  

Build up of charged particles

2019-11-18 18:24:54 UTC  

@Riley light is observable the big bang is a claim made. I won't believe it just happened by itself

2019-11-18 18:25:12 UTC  

we don't know anything before the planck era

2019-11-18 18:25:12 UTC  

inb4 red shift

2019-11-18 18:25:23 UTC  

redshift does demonstrate an expansion of space, yes

2019-11-18 18:25:32 UTC  

and get this

2019-11-18 18:25:41 UTC  

the CMB proves that the universe was once very dense, hot, and uniform

2019-11-18 18:25:44 UTC  

hmmm

2019-11-18 18:25:51 UTC  

so the universe use to be very dense and hot

2019-11-18 18:25:54 UTC  

and uniform

2019-11-18 18:25:57 UTC  

and its currently expanding

2019-11-18 18:25:59 UTC  

...what if

2019-11-18 18:26:01 UTC  

Expansion implies an origin point, which is roughly the big bang theory

2019-11-18 18:26:06 UTC  

the universe use to be small

2019-11-18 18:26:07 UTC  

And that origin point expanded

2019-11-18 18:26:14 UTC  

yes...sort of

2019-11-18 18:26:28 UTC  

well...not really

2019-11-18 18:26:35 UTC  

picture a balloon with a bunch of dots on it

2019-11-18 18:26:42 UTC  

there is no central point of expansion

2019-11-18 18:26:48 UTC  

on the surface of the balloon

2019-11-18 18:26:57 UTC  

There is a point where all originated

2019-11-18 18:27:00 UTC  

A singularity

2019-11-18 18:27:02 UTC  

yes

2019-11-18 18:27:09 UTC  

@Riley so the universe expanded? How is that even counter to a creation myth?

2019-11-18 18:27:21 UTC  

well, it counters the 6 day nonsense

2019-11-18 18:27:26 UTC  

and the 6,000 year old universe shit

2019-11-18 18:27:36 UTC  

of course, i use other methods to counter that

2019-11-18 18:27:57 UTC  

What happen before or during the singularity?

2019-11-18 18:28:01 UTC  

idk

2019-11-18 18:28:04 UTC  

at that point

2019-11-18 18:28:11 UTC  

the universe would have been dominated by quantum gravity

2019-11-18 18:28:18 UTC  

we don't have a complete theory of quantum gravity

2019-11-18 18:28:20 UTC  

All concepts of space and time break down at the singularity

2019-11-18 18:28:23 UTC  

so we can't make predictions

2019-11-18 18:28:33 UTC  

its more accurate to say that the laws of physics break down

2019-11-18 18:28:38 UTC  

or become incompatible with eachother

2019-11-18 18:28:44 UTC  

general relativity and quantum field theory

2019-11-18 18:28:51 UTC  

they begin to class when we talk about singularities

2019-11-18 18:28:51 UTC  

Laws of physics are supposed to be unbreakable, no?

2019-11-18 18:28:59 UTC  

they don't "break"