Message from @advo

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2019-09-13 06:21:59 UTC  

nice, I wasn't going out of my way to add him

2019-09-13 06:22:49 UTC  

@advo Can you destroy me with facts and logic

2019-09-13 06:32:04 UTC  

@advo

Most of your takes seem to be in response to some preconceived notion that I'm some leftycom, and your statement that "capitalism has been in place since recorded history" is by all metrics wrong, since feudal societies were obviously not capitalistic.

Second, fascism isn't the only form of ultranationalism or worldview that" puts its people above everything else." That's not why it's anti-reason. Nationalism is good. Authoritarianism isn't really bad on its own either. I said fascism is anti-reason because it's an idealist ideology, which is a fact.

Third, are you a nationalist? If so, do you think economic growth is the most important thing a nation needs to focus on, or are there more important factors that it should come at the very least second to?

Also, what does Venezuela have to do with any of this? You seem to have wanted to use this as some sort of "mic drop comment", but it's out of place and makes no sense here.

2019-09-13 06:32:11 UTC  

@Raspootin Tell him how to get past the border

2019-09-13 06:32:21 UTC  

O ye

2019-09-13 06:33:02 UTC  

He's saying that he already did but nobody is on

2019-09-13 06:33:22 UTC  

@Maksim Let this libtard past the border so we can make him a based nazbol

2019-09-13 06:36:54 UTC  

@advo obese

2019-09-13 06:37:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/621957491714162688/preferable-alternative.jpeg

2019-09-13 06:37:24 UTC  

anyway, you were saying mr. marx @Shiba Inu

2019-09-13 06:38:11 UTC  

@advo here is my reply again

2019-09-13 06:38:14 UTC  

Most of your takes seem to be in response to some preconceived notion that I'm some leftycom, and your statement that "capitalism has been in place since recorded history" is by all metrics wrong, since feudal societies were obviously not capitalistic.

Second, fascism isn't the only form of ultranationalism or worldview that" puts its people above everything else." That's not why it's anti-reason. Nationalism is good. Authoritarianism isn't really bad on its own either. I said fascism is anti-reason because it's an idealist ideology, which is a fact.

Third, are you a nationalist? If so, do you think economic growth is the most important thing a nation needs to focus on, or are there more important factors that it should come at the very least second to?

Also, what does Venezuela have to do with any of this? You seem to have wanted to use this as some sort of "mic drop comment", but it's out of place and makes no sense here.

2019-09-13 06:38:15 UTC  

i saw it

2019-09-13 06:38:18 UTC  

ever heard of

2019-09-13 06:38:25 UTC  

***O R G A N I Z E D T R A D E***

2019-09-13 06:38:33 UTC  

That's not capitalism

2019-09-13 06:38:36 UTC  

no?

2019-09-13 06:38:38 UTC  

Define capitalism

2019-09-13 06:39:22 UTC  

I would define it as an economic system centered around private ownership over the means of production

2019-09-13 06:39:23 UTC  

economic system where a monetary system is used

2019-09-13 06:39:43 UTC  

That's not capitalism in the sense most people use it

2019-09-13 06:40:09 UTC  

You'd have to say the Soviet Union was capitalist by that standard, which it wasn't

2019-09-13 06:40:45 UTC  

yeah because it was a monumental failure on every possible level

2019-09-13 06:40:48 UTC  

I've debunked the social merits of Capitalism several times

2019-09-13 06:40:59 UTC  

oh boy here we go

2019-09-13 06:41:12 UTC  

@advo Answer my question, the third point

2019-09-13 06:41:18 UTC  

`Third, are you a nationalist? If so, do you think economic growth is the most important thing a nation needs to focus on, or are there more important factors that it should come at the very least second to?

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2019-09-13 06:41:31 UTC  

What if I don't value economic growth as my top priority?

2019-09-13 06:41:34 UTC  

Capitalism in incompatible with Nationalism

2019-09-13 06:41:36 UTC  

^

2019-09-13 06:41:48 UTC  

You cannot be a Nationalist and support Capitalism

2019-09-13 06:41:59 UTC  

Which actively pushes for open borders, free trade, and immigration

2019-09-13 06:42:01 UTC  

'not compatible'

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/621958749929865217/I_LAUGH.jpg

2019-09-13 06:42:03 UTC  

So in that sense, how would you explain the Soviet Union as being a failure to me

2019-09-13 06:42:08 UTC  

The virgin Pinochet

2019-09-13 06:42:12 UTC  

the chad Uncle Joe

2019-09-13 06:42:25 UTC  

also Pinochet wasn't a a nationalist, he was a faggot who whored his country out

2019-09-13 06:42:38 UTC  

by killing communists

2019-09-13 06:42:40 UTC  

@advo Chile under Pinochet was not Nationalist

2019-09-13 06:42:52 UTC  

National Pride did not soar under him