Message from @Notso

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2019-06-17 04:54:02 UTC  

Do you not believe in absolute truths ?

2019-06-17 04:54:02 UTC  

Finally something coherent out of this dude

2019-06-17 04:54:11 UTC  

Altruist morality that only exists within humans and for what particular reason?

2019-06-17 04:54:11 UTC  

Okay cringe

2019-06-17 04:54:25 UTC  

It just did

2019-06-17 04:54:30 UTC  

(Not to you notso)

2019-06-17 04:54:44 UTC  

What @GHOST

2019-06-17 04:54:44 UTC  

Please enlighten me

2019-06-17 04:55:07 UTC  

@Notso do you believe in absolute truths ?

2019-06-17 04:55:13 UTC  

I don't know why you're trying to talk reason to him, it's obvious he's trolling @Alice Redacted

2019-06-17 04:55:24 UTC  

Can you find me some evidence or examples of this

2019-06-17 04:55:36 UTC  

Of altruistic repetitive behavior in animals

2019-06-17 04:55:43 UTC  

Finding evidence would be using scientific tools to prove his point

2019-06-17 04:55:46 UTC  

I believe there are some things that always hold, if that’s what you mean
But I believe that in general there is always a more accurate representation to be found of any „truth“

2019-06-17 04:56:06 UTC  

No we can watch animals ourselves

2019-06-17 04:56:08 UTC  

And that is the progression of science

2019-06-17 04:56:12 UTC  

It's not labcoat testtube nonsense

2019-06-17 04:56:28 UTC  

Animals operate on a clock they are very predictable

2019-06-17 04:56:46 UTC  

If they was absolute truth to everything, there would be some „end“ to knowledge

2019-06-17 04:57:19 UTC  

Okay @Notso i generally believe truth is truth, it doesn't get more simpler than that, if there wasn't any absolute truth, anything in the bible could be disregarded because it wouldn't be absolute

2019-06-17 04:57:23 UTC  

Im no physicist but I know there are some issues with measuring extremely small forces and particles as well

2019-06-17 04:57:42 UTC  
2019-06-17 05:00:27 UTC  

I don't think in any way that's beneficial unless you're considering it from the perspective of an admirable trait but I don't see the reason for it being admirable or a trait in the first place strictly based on survival

2019-06-17 05:00:37 UTC  

Are you saying it's from a utilitarian standpoint?

2019-06-17 05:01:43 UTC  

I need to get ready for the day

2019-06-17 05:01:45 UTC  

Sorry

2019-06-17 05:01:46 UTC  

I don't think animals have that understanding

2019-06-17 05:01:55 UTC  

I don't think they grasp the concept

2019-06-17 05:02:06 UTC  

They have been observed to

2019-06-17 05:02:09 UTC  

Yeah i don't think thats really applicable to animals

2019-06-17 05:02:19 UTC  

It is self-evident that this mutual aid is beneficial *because it is prevalent in nature.*

2019-06-17 05:02:21 UTC  

If it negatively impacted the survival of a species it would be selected out as a behavior.

2019-06-17 05:02:22 UTC  

It is self-evident that this mutual aid is beneficial because it is prevalent in nature.

2019-06-17 05:02:22 UTC  

ugh this internet connection is ass, sorry if I double-post

2019-06-17 05:02:29 UTC  

But they know if something hurts them to avoid it the next time

2019-06-17 05:02:31 UTC  

Just because they do a certain thing doesn't mean we can put thoughts in their brain

2019-06-17 05:02:55 UTC  

They do stuff based on there instincts and even then they sometimes do stuff out of there programming like tend for other animals

2019-06-17 05:03:06 UTC  

>we can't put thoughts in their brain
heh but here you are making claims about what God can and can't do @⍟luminance

2019-06-17 05:03:11 UTC  

And human altruism is no different?

2019-06-17 05:03:11 UTC  

It’s not thoughts, but it’s genetics — things that increase survivability of a certain population will lead to increase in size of population with beneficial traits

2019-06-17 05:03:28 UTC  

That's because he said he's all knowing