Message from @Phil With Frankincense

Discord ID: 590045369392562192


2019-06-17 05:08:29 UTC  

The moral teachings specifically

2019-06-17 05:08:33 UTC  

And through that they were able to have liberty

2019-06-17 05:08:36 UTC  

Ignoring China

2019-06-17 05:08:40 UTC  

Nobody intended the Bible as a scholarly historical or scientific work

2019-06-17 05:08:49 UTC  

It's a theological work

2019-06-17 05:08:53 UTC  

Yes

2019-06-17 05:08:55 UTC  

By God who used his followers and people to write about him and events concerning him, he made it to explain creation to us and so us in the future would be able to know what has been said and what will happen

2019-06-17 05:09:08 UTC  

>Christian Europeans throughout history have been the only ones capable of developing true civilization
*cries in Chinese, Aztec, Sumerian, Egyptian and thousands of other non-Christian civilizations*

2019-06-17 05:09:14 UTC  

What denom @GHOST

2019-06-17 05:09:14 UTC  

What is "true" civilization?

2019-06-17 05:09:17 UTC  

Not one had liberty

2019-06-17 05:09:20 UTC  

But Europe

2019-06-17 05:09:23 UTC  

Who says?

2019-06-17 05:09:26 UTC  

Liberty is a false god

2019-06-17 05:09:28 UTC  

Says history

2019-06-17 05:09:29 UTC  

What value does Liberty have?

2019-06-17 05:09:35 UTC  

"says history"

2019-06-17 05:09:37 UTC  

@Notso im not a part of any denom

2019-06-17 05:09:37 UTC  

Fuck off, idiot.

2019-06-17 05:09:37 UTC  

„Liberty“ is not the defining characteristic of civilization it is a false ideal

2019-06-17 05:09:38 UTC  

idolized like the golden calf

2019-06-17 05:09:40 UTC  

Liberty comes AFTER order and tradition and virtue

2019-06-17 05:09:42 UTC  

I'm done with this pseud

2019-06-17 05:09:53 UTC  

Ah ok

2019-06-17 05:09:56 UTC  

It's unique

2019-06-17 05:10:01 UTC  

nvm I take that back

2019-06-17 05:10:22 UTC  

An authoritarian society can still be morally right

2019-06-17 05:10:23 UTC  

well, I don't, I just don't mean it towards you

2019-06-17 05:10:33 UTC  

The problem is not with liberty the problem is putting liberty first

2019-06-17 05:10:38 UTC  

^

2019-06-17 05:10:41 UTC  

It can't come first and it's not the most important

2019-06-17 05:10:44 UTC  

You actually said something coherent

2019-06-17 05:11:11 UTC  

Because you can't have it without traditional Christianity

2019-06-17 05:11:13 UTC  

virtue and piety

2019-06-17 05:11:28 UTC  

^

2019-06-17 05:11:33 UTC  

The bible was composed by the church, it isn't the be all end all of anything

2019-06-17 05:12:09 UTC  

We have *2000 years* of teaching on the stuff in it. But without a proper magisterium, it's worthless

2019-06-17 05:12:10 UTC  

Context matters
Always

2019-06-17 05:12:31 UTC  

Comparing Christianity to other religions is just retarded because it's very very unique

2019-06-17 05:12:44 UTC  

Elaborate

2019-06-17 05:13:11 UTC  

Christian societies are nothing like Muslim societies. Christianity alone is God seeking man which is entirely unique to it.