Message from @Dronestruck

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2019-12-12 01:26:46 UTC  

Both were bourgeois revolutions

2019-12-12 01:26:51 UTC  

Not quite the same

2019-12-12 01:26:59 UTC  

y'all need a history lesson

2019-12-12 01:27:00 UTC  

liberalism is its own thing

2019-12-12 01:27:11 UTC  

Hm, yeah, I suppose it is

2019-12-12 01:27:16 UTC  

its basically saying liberty is the best value

2019-12-12 01:27:28 UTC  

the most important value

2019-12-12 01:27:40 UTC  

Liberalism emphasizes individual liberty, primarily

2019-12-12 01:27:45 UTC  

yes

2019-12-12 01:27:50 UTC  

well than thats anarchism lmao

2019-12-12 01:27:51 UTC  

Capitalist markets with some state intervention

2019-12-12 01:27:58 UTC  

no

2019-12-12 01:28:04 UTC  

anarchism is a form of liberalism

2019-12-12 01:28:10 UTC  

Anarchism is not liberalism

2019-12-12 01:28:11 UTC  

I can see why libertarianism can get conflated with that, although Libertarianism is moreso about absolute individual freedom, even illegal shit.

2019-12-12 01:28:22 UTC  

technically its the endgoal

2019-12-12 01:28:27 UTC  

total freedom

2019-12-12 01:28:28 UTC  

Liberals can be anarchists though, though you have ancap liberals.

2019-12-12 01:28:31 UTC  

Liberalism is majoritarian

2019-12-12 01:28:38 UTC  

I don't consider ancaps anarchists

2019-12-12 01:28:44 UTC  

tbh

2019-12-12 01:28:57 UTC  

Is it? I thought Liberals value minorities through identity politics.

2019-12-12 01:29:03 UTC  

Ancaps are a walking contradiction

2019-12-12 01:29:03 UTC  

You're essentially trading state authority for corporate authority

2019-12-12 01:29:11 UTC  

Especially hoppeans

2019-12-12 01:29:11 UTC  

liberals are jewish

2019-12-12 01:29:17 UTC  

Capitalism cant exist without the state

2019-12-12 01:29:17 UTC  

well anarchists are interesting in that regard

2019-12-12 01:29:19 UTC  

Excellent analysis Otto.

2019-12-12 01:29:21 UTC  

😛

2019-12-12 01:29:22 UTC  

they think people will all be the same

2019-12-12 01:29:25 UTC  

impersonal system

2019-12-12 01:29:28 UTC  

You cant destroy the state and keep capitalism alive

2019-12-12 01:29:33 UTC  

^

2019-12-12 01:29:35 UTC  

Basically like a Lesbian black woman would be of higher value to Liberals.

2019-12-12 01:29:44 UTC  

ehh

2019-12-12 01:29:53 UTC  

cool take ngl

2019-12-12 01:29:57 UTC  

Libertarians don't care about that much, Libertarians want to do wtf they want.

2019-12-12 01:30:07 UTC  

@OrthoGoat post authority humanity

2019-12-12 01:30:10 UTC  

Exactly. Victimless crimes are not crimes, basically.

2019-12-12 01:30:17 UTC  

It's a broad analogy, but an example.