liberals want that structure to grow even more bloated

thats meaningless

a modern country is going to have a bloated bureaucracy because of how they are designed

@Mr Jay(Spooktober Edition) you believe in democracy

then call me an idealist

If you want a centralized state, be prepared for bureaucracy.

idgaf

@Veraic You support Azad Hind, by the way?

who?

Nevermind.

@Mr Jay(Spooktober Edition) you believe in democracy

?

yes and no

wdym

its either a yes or a no

it works, not in every circumstance, but it works

so yes

depending on the situation it may or may not be the right choice

only time its appropriate is when its a local town council

anything bigger and it degenerates into mass rule

or oligarcy

Agreed, excessive democracy is dangerous.

it is most effective in an insular group, yes

@Veraic no

A democracy is controlled by whoever controls the media

correct

on a grand scale, yes

because the media determines how the politicians are showed

hence why i said Oligarchy

the wealthy and foreign lobbyists own the government

Wouldn’t say own, but certainly dictate.

a small rootless international clique

who are at home in no place

Whose interests are that of financial gain.

who have no soil on which they have grown up

hmmm i wonder who your talking about

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heeby jeebies

@Mr Jay(Spooktober Edition) u meming?

possibly

it can be real and a meme