Message from @lemoncookie

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2019-02-15 07:16:38 UTC  

that doesn't mean it can't communicate anything at all clearly

2019-02-15 07:16:42 UTC  

the people reading it are flawed

2019-02-15 07:16:49 UTC  

this does not mean they are incapable of understanding any of it

2019-02-15 07:17:34 UTC  

I'm not defending the bible as a book full of truths

2019-02-15 07:17:41 UTC  

I'm saying many different authors wrote it

2019-02-15 07:17:46 UTC  

and they had their original intentions

2019-02-15 07:17:50 UTC  

and that is the meaning of the text

2019-02-15 07:18:03 UTC  

there are not multiple valid interpretations

2019-02-15 07:18:34 UTC  

because one denomination disagrees about one thing doesn't mean anything

2019-02-15 07:18:48 UTC  

it means someone is wrong or no one is right and the meaning is lost

2019-02-15 07:19:11 UTC  

these books or letters etc... poems

2019-02-15 07:19:16 UTC  

they weren't meant to be all grouped together

2019-02-15 07:19:24 UTC  

they were written across hundreds of years

2019-02-15 07:19:32 UTC  

in different languages, places etc

2019-02-15 07:19:47 UTC  

of course there will be contradictions

2019-02-15 07:20:01 UTC  

one correct interpretation

2019-02-15 07:20:06 UTC  

infinite incorrect interpretations

2019-02-15 07:20:20 UTC  

and the correct one might be unknowable even while the author was alive

2019-02-15 07:20:29 UTC  

let alone when long dead

2019-02-15 07:20:45 UTC  

Christians use scripture to interpret scripture

2019-02-15 07:20:59 UTC  

they use one book that has nothing really to do with another to interpret a verse

2019-02-15 07:21:06 UTC  

if there is a verse that doesn't make sense to them

2019-02-15 07:21:14 UTC  

they go to a verse on that same topic that is clearer

2019-02-15 07:21:21 UTC  

and then choose that verse as the verse to go on

2019-02-15 07:21:27 UTC  

the Christians that practice exegesis

2019-02-15 07:21:44 UTC  

exegesis vs eisegesis

2019-02-15 07:22:04 UTC  

exegesis you try and figure out what the text really means as honestly as possible as Christian can

2019-02-15 07:22:22 UTC  

eisegesis you read something into it that is not there

2019-02-15 07:22:38 UTC  

Christians who practice exegesis are usually interested in the original languages of the manuscripts

2019-02-15 07:22:43 UTC  

koine greek/hebrew

2019-02-15 07:22:55 UTC  

cause they actually care about the "real" meaning of the text

2019-02-15 07:23:27 UTC  

doing all this and taking it seriously

2019-02-15 07:23:33 UTC  

is what helped me to not be a Christian anymore

2019-02-15 07:23:38 UTC  

cause it's obvious how convoluted it all is

2019-02-15 07:23:41 UTC  

trying to make it all fit

2019-02-15 07:24:00 UTC  

if I was still Christian no way I would be awake to racial differences

2019-02-15 07:24:15 UTC  

cause there is no room for evolution in Christianity

2019-02-15 07:24:41 UTC  

Christianity has fucked our race

2019-02-15 07:25:10 UTC  

most average IQ whites don't really understand evolution

2019-02-15 07:25:16 UTC  

from my experience

2019-02-15 07:25:23 UTC  

they just believe God created everyone