Message from @Augustus
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The individual wants to smoke weed all day and jerk off to futa porn
For this question I find it helps to think of freedom and capability (or availability) as the same thing.
People don’t want freedom they want meaning
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do collective rights include stoning for adultery
Freedom is useless for a weak man, because he can't do anything even if he's allowed. In the same way, freedom is useless to a man in a desert, since there is nothing of value to be had.
Therefore, sacrifice freedom as necessary to create a society worth living in.
when people nowadays say
"I want freedom"
What they're really saying is
"I WANT MORE DOPAMINE"
People enjoying themselves and living meaningful lives will literally be freedom in their eyes
Like @PunishedMuskovy said if you left it up to them it would be rampant hedonism
I think it is wrong to completely discount the value of freedom
The health and worthiness of the society comes first, but personal freedom is precious too
Like I said people don’t even know what freedom is
To them it’s just “wah I wanna do what I want”
"DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO MOM"
"DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO SOCIETY"
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 1984"
men and women need both
People take freedom and fucking rape that shit
Then spit on it
They could do so much
And what do they do?
Smoke weed and watch rick and morty
Need more dopamine, more seratonin
Honestly as long as you can live your life normally and don’t have your “rights” infringed then you’re free buddy
What counts as normally?
You can live your life normally
Go to the supermarket
Play outside with friends
Go to the movies
forced to send kids to public school
Etc.
can't own guns
can never own land because of property tax
Having your kids be taught faggotry is normal
its normal in todays society
but wont be normal in an ideal one