@Mayla good point

You know, those people that are "more powerful" usually got there for a reason

a collection of factors

intelligence, strength, endurance, perserverance

And those that are poor and "weak"

are there for a reason

i.e, the complete opposite of those things

You make some very valid arguments

Sometimes you need to challenge your world view

Why should poor people be entitled to anything?

^

getting onto that

@olev they should atleast be supported

Supported with what?

I do believe that the absolute disabled and poor people should be looked after in society

We've had welfare for a long ass time, and has the amount of poor people gone down?

But the point at the moment

No, it's gotten way fucking higher

With welfare through the asscrack

gives no incentive for these poor people to imporve

improve*

because they don't have to work hard and can get by for free, essentially

@Mayla yeah in Egypt we don't have Welfare

Okay, so i'll make an example

Hey

Bitches

Would the people that freed Egypt from Britain have had any incentive to do so if they had just been given money and power?

@Mayla no

If Britian essentially said

"Okay Egyptians, here's enough money to get by, and here's some power, now stay in our empire"

Then they would have never broken free

and it's the same with those that live off of welfare

@Mayla but by breaking free our country went to complete and utter shit

penis

People that live off welfare don't get out of their situation

It never fucking happens

Never

Welfare hasn't solved anything

It went to shit on the short term

There's way more poor people

the same as those on welfare