Message from @HeroicFool

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2019-03-08 22:29:58 UTC  

spite is a hell of a drug

2019-03-08 22:30:13 UTC  

I've tried to remain level-headed on the whole thing and even I'M feeling it

2019-03-08 22:30:58 UTC  

I don't blame the nihilist yang posting, but the rationalizers are just pure cope

2019-03-08 22:31:14 UTC  

rationalization is fucking gay

2019-03-08 22:31:18 UTC  

this tbh

2019-03-08 22:31:31 UTC  

unga bunga > big think

2019-03-08 22:33:29 UTC  

also, Elizabeth Warren is now pledging to break up the big tech monopolies if she's elected president

2019-03-08 22:33:59 UTC  

I was thinking Trump would easily win a second term but now I'm becoming less sure of that since different Dem candidates are hitting him on his weak points

2019-03-08 22:34:47 UTC  

If Biden steals Yang's and Warren's schtick drumpf is unironically finished

2019-03-08 22:37:05 UTC  

I'm becoming increasingly convinced of Skowronek's "disjunctive president" theory, namely that Trump is a failed realigning figure who ends up paving the way for genuine reformers in the opposition party

2019-03-08 22:37:29 UTC  

much in the same way that Carter was a failed realigning figure who paved the way for the Reagan years

2019-03-08 22:37:43 UTC  

or Hoover was a failed realigning figure who paved the way for the New Deal

2019-03-08 22:39:43 UTC  

The difference is that Trump is not a part of the current year failed establishment, not even a little bit like Carter

2019-03-08 22:40:05 UTC  

Carter was an outsider

2019-03-08 22:40:19 UTC  

we'll see what ideas come out on top after the first debates. Still think intersectionality will be the Dem losing ticket for 2020

2019-03-08 22:40:24 UTC  

An daily captured one

2019-03-08 22:40:28 UTC  

Easily

2019-03-08 22:40:36 UTC  

his whole shtick when he ran for president was that he was not associated with the Washington establishment, since he was Georgia's governor

2019-03-08 22:41:11 UTC  

and he made moves towards deregulation during his presidency (most notably in the airline industry), but was stymied by his own party, which was still run by New Dealers

2019-03-08 22:41:53 UTC  

similarly, Trump made moves towards ending free trade and mass immigration but has been stymied by his own party

2019-03-08 22:41:56 UTC  

Trump is a failed outsider who won largely thanks to name recognition and desire for change from the Obama presidency. Now he only has name recognition to run on unless he turns things around in this grand game of 69th dimensional chutes and ladders.

2019-03-08 22:43:42 UTC  

the theory from Agnostic (a blogger who talks a lot about Skowronek's theory) is that the Dems, under a pro-worker reformer regime, will be more likely to end mass immigration/free trade, namely by jacking up the cost of labor (minimum wage increases), killing off a lot of the low-profit margin industry that relies on cheap labor

2019-03-08 22:44:08 UTC  

they'll also be more likely to punish businesses that skirt labor regulations

2019-03-08 22:44:33 UTC  

I'm skeptical of that because the Dems are still clearly dominated by the corporate cabal

2019-03-08 22:45:12 UTC  

minimum wage increases will just drive up the usage of migrant workers who pay under the table.

2019-03-08 22:45:39 UTC  

@HeroicFool Stawp poasting

2019-03-08 22:45:51 UTC  

make me

2019-03-08 22:45:54 UTC  

that's why I'm skeptical

2019-03-08 22:46:28 UTC  

a minimum wage jackup would have to be accompanied by harsh enforcement, combined with strict penalties for violators

2019-03-08 22:46:58 UTC  

if you're caught paying your employees less than minimum wage, for example, you go to prison and your business is seized by the government and sold at auction

2019-03-08 22:48:41 UTC  

there is some merit to the Skowronek/Agnostic analysis: during the New Deal, immigration was far lower than during the preceding Progressive Era or the Reagan Era that followed it

2019-03-08 22:50:11 UTC  

but it ignores the fact that demographic changes have fundamentally changed the dynamics of American politics

2019-03-08 22:52:30 UTC  

related aside: the fact that Shawn is now running a normie, optics-friendly account to promote Yang is fucking hilarious

2019-03-08 22:56:15 UTC  

The irony of this meme

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442075138058616860/553712618729242624/D1JSD-vWwAIfrNc.jpg

2019-03-08 23:02:17 UTC  
2019-03-08 23:04:07 UTC  

joke's on all of us because he WANTS to be trapped in a large building surrounded by horny men constantly

2019-03-08 23:04:39 UTC  

intentionally dropping the soap

2019-03-08 23:07:26 UTC  

Pool party

2019-03-08 23:11:18 UTC  

>Yang cucked on me, like Trump. No more!" [RPG 7 noises]

2019-03-08 23:11:26 UTC  

This, so much this.

2019-03-08 23:28:09 UTC  

OK, If I am understand this right; Millenials are going to push for Yang to hurt Baby Boomers, because Trump wasn't the right approach to save the country. So they go to another Chaos option. Right?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442075138058616860/553720644408311847/1552065412.png