Message from @musty bussy

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2018-01-12 02:11:14 UTC  

His IQ is 150 or something

2018-01-12 02:11:18 UTC  

Trying to validate yourself by claiming you have a degree isn't "establishing ethos"

2018-01-12 02:11:44 UTC  

It is if you're talking about the subject at hand, which is what I have been talking about lol

2018-01-12 02:11:44 UTC  

It's 9:11

2018-01-12 02:12:03 UTC  

The degree is simply proof that you know your shit, it’s not proof that the other person doesn’t.

2018-01-12 02:12:12 UTC  

It's not proof you know your shit

2018-01-12 02:12:14 UTC  

How’s that?

2018-01-12 02:12:16 UTC  

It doesn't mean anything

2018-01-12 02:12:35 UTC  

It doesn't make any of your claims correct

2018-01-12 02:12:54 UTC  

It's proof that you have a much higher chance of knowing your shit on the topic at hand than someone who hasn't spent 4+ years of their life studying it

2018-01-12 02:13:04 UTC  

Bruh this is common sense

2018-01-12 02:13:10 UTC  

It's not appeal to authority but

2018-01-12 02:13:17 UTC  

It doesn't entirely validate claims

2018-01-12 02:13:20 UTC  

^

2018-01-12 02:13:50 UTC  

Appeal to authority is referencing a person who isn't a suited authority on a topic

2018-01-12 02:13:53 UTC  

It's not the color of the skin but for a looong ass time different races and ethnicities haven't interacted as much as we do today.
So it wouldn't be surpriseing that if in an area where there was plenty of food available for people to prefer to mate with higher IQ individuals.

2018-01-12 02:14:01 UTC  

That's why it is only used to help establish ethos, you still have to use logic/reasoning/evidence(logos) to back up your claim

2018-01-12 02:14:13 UTC  

Saying hey I'm a doctor and your foot is fucked up so believe me isn't appeal to authority

2018-01-12 02:14:35 UTC  

Saying hey I'm a doctor so I know your oil is low is

2018-01-12 02:14:50 UTC  

^

2018-01-12 02:15:08 UTC  

It all depends on the context guys
If you go to the doctor and they tell you to get X medicine cause your sick you are not gonna be like "where's your sources?"

2018-01-12 02:15:09 UTC  

Appeal to authority is referencing the position of some authority rather than an argument

2018-01-12 02:15:36 UTC  

No

2018-01-12 02:15:37 UTC  

he still doesn't get it

2018-01-12 02:15:41 UTC  

It has to be a false authority

2018-01-12 02:15:59 UTC  

If you have an argument and sources and then you mention that you have a degree I don't see the issue with that

2018-01-12 02:16:10 UTC  

It doesn't make your statement true

2018-01-12 02:16:16 UTC  

But it makes it more reliable

2018-01-12 02:16:18 UTC  

why is having a degree relevant

2018-01-12 02:16:23 UTC  

Or if someone uses it just to say, "I have a degree in this, therefore you're wrong(when in fact they are wrong about the subject at hand"

2018-01-12 02:16:30 UTC  

doesnt make your statement more or less true than someone who just googles what you said

2018-01-12 02:16:44 UTC  

That's why I dnt say dat shit

2018-01-12 02:16:45 UTC  

I see an issue when retards on Tunglr.hell say shit like "I have a degree and you're wrong" and that's their whole argument

2018-01-12 02:16:48 UTC  

Like most logical fallacies it's typically used to shut down an argument rather than actually debate it

2018-01-12 02:17:03 UTC  

Like ad hominems

2018-01-12 02:17:06 UTC  

Ad hom is misunderstood like that as well

2018-01-12 02:17:06 UTC  

are yall niggas arguing about arguing

2018-01-12 02:17:11 UTC  

Yes

2018-01-12 02:17:13 UTC  

wow

2018-01-12 02:17:14 UTC  

You obtain a degree by going to school, learning stuff, proving that you learned it and remember it in a test. Therefore, the degree is what you use to show that you most definitely know the topic.

To say because someone doesn’t have a degree would not mean they don’t know it simply because they don’t have it, it just means you’d have to get to know the person before you knew that they knew their way around the topic.

It is a fallacy to say “I have a degree therefore I am right,” it is not a fallacy to say “I went to school, learned that this was the case, got this diploma to prove it, and thus, for sure, I know how to reach [this] conclusion.”

And then demonstrate the conclusion.

2018-01-12 02:17:19 UTC  

This is so meta