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> Scoop: Trump ready to ban vape flavors except tobacco, menthol
Youtube is going down the shitter.
Good to see Trump bringing in more regulation @Monstrous Moonshine
> > Groypers compain about Gorka wanting "Verified" badge removed from Fuentes.
> > Proceeds to false flag and get Gorka's **entire channel deleted**.
@Mitch I think the reason MILO chose to beat that dead horse is related to Fuentes vs. Republican party civil war within American conservativism.
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Because Fuentes pretty much escaped the implosion of Alt-Right despite being part of the circles and are now doing the same invade and subvert gay ops to hijack Republican party again.
Still it’s a shitty tactic, it’s not addressing Nick Fuentes’s point
Or his arguments
Trying to bring up something from years ago **from another guy** to attack someone **else** for actions of *today*?
That should be without saying a shitty tactic
Maybe, but it is a reminder why Alt-Right is cringe.
And Fuentes has always been riding the Holocaust denial bandwagon.
Yeah but the Holocaust denial is off topic completely
It’s obviously a shitty character assassination
I don’t like the Holocaust denial
I don't disagree with many of the Groyper points. Kirk is a joke on the topic of Israel.
Listen I just want to point out the shitty tactics the conservatives are doing
It’s something we hated about the Progressives
I didn't like Gorka's plea to de-verify Fuentes.
That said, flagging someones channel off Youtube isn't exactly better.
And I'm pretty sure no-ones going to shed a tear for Gorka being completely deplatformed... despite everyone crying about how evil it would be if Fuentes was merely de-verified.
The "free speech" aspect to Fuentes is entirely contextual and not principled.
It's just like Louis le Vau said in pre-amble of https://youtu.be/fFNLQcUWZ-Y
Basically the Fuentes's Groypers are going "muh freeze peach", i.e adopting language of pro-censorship SJWs, while demanding their right to platform. It doesn't seem to be a principle, a value they universally hold, they just don't want to be the ones silenced.
And there was this very "revelation" when Spencer admitted that he's not in favor of free speech, and it's only a tool to establish ethnostate, not part of ethnostate after it's formed. Groypers seem to be on the same train of thought.
I'm personally Free Speech Absolutist
So I disagree with Spencer on that
I'm pretty sure MILO wants to bring these memories back to surface. It's not just the leaks, but reminding of Spencer's betrayal of his outward expressed values (which he didn't actually hold when discussing stuff between friends).
No matter what, free speech must prevail.
Well, I don't think Groypers are your friend, then.
I'm pretty certain Groypers false flagged Gorka off Youtube.
No, Gorka was banned for copyright violation
Which is ten times worse than requesting Fuentes's "Verified" badge to be removed.
He straight away ripped certain songs in his livestreams
@Monstrous Moonshine And it was just a (((coincidence))) that it happened now?
Not anyone's fault that he is a technologically illiterate boomer
Somehow I'm supposed to believe that copyright holders just wanted to delete his channel rather than claim monetization to themselves.