Message from @fvriovs
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some of them would've travelled north
Yea, sure they had black slaves as well.
and the Kush in turn conquered Egypt at one point
considering that egypt was a connection route from north to sub saharan africa ye
The original white supremicists.
Egyptians
but I don't think the entirety of the Egyptian genos if a single one existed (several wives of migration did occur, Canaanite and Hyksos both) would've been black
both of those migrations came from Asia, not Africa
the Egyptians probably had more in common with Mesopotamians and the Semitic peoples than they did anyone south of the Sahara
I doubt Egyptians would have seen themselves as white, they drew themselves darker than syrians and greeks
Genetically they were strongly related to other north african and East african/arabic populations
No one would've seen themselves as "white" the way we define it
that concept of race didn't exist
yea makes sense. What Saharan powers going on then? What did they have to trade?
the old Greek word for race, "genos"
there was saharan trade ye
was applied to virtually any identifiable group
Hellenic was a race
Persian
Thracian
true true
groups we'd now consider to be just ethnicities
of course that's the Greek perspective
I'm unaware of how Egypt categorised any peoples
Do you understand that even today people still have problem discerning a race from an ethnicity?
yea that's fair, maybe they were more cultural, but I bet there was facial similarities among races, coming from original "settlers"
yes, but that wasn't my point
the ancient concept of race was not pan-ethnic
I mean the people talk about it anything can be labeled anything else.
in fact the Hellenic 'race' was itself sub-divided
Dorians, Ionians, Aeolians, Achaeans, Macedonians, Epirotes, etc
Nobody knew what they were talking their as*es off before the industrial era and the British colonializing a third of the world.
I can't remember which Greek said this, but he defined being Hellenic as a four-part commonality
same blood, same language, same cult (religion), same customs / mores
What you mean by race is just the opinion of a tiny tiny minority within the British colonial government which had the resources to enforce it on anyone else.
this has the intriguing possibility that someone born foreign who speaks Greek, worshipped Greek gods, and obeyed Greek customs was more of a Hellene than someone born Greek who neither spoke the language, worshipped the gods, or obeyed the customs
although the assessment does not provide the importance of each factor so assuming it to be 25:25:25:25 could be a mistake
Alexander I of Macedon had to prove he was Greek to gain entry to the Olympic games
Ah meeeemes!