Message from @ManAnimal

Discord ID: 640573712227106857


2019-11-03 15:24:36 UTC  

"To one consenting, no injury is done."

Contract law supercedes all other law, except in the case of immoral consideration. Again, I can't contract to murder a third party. This is why lovemaking isn't rape and BDSM isn't assault and battery.

2019-11-03 15:24:47 UTC  

and who is the main reason as to why you want to divorce your wife?

2019-11-03 15:25:06 UTC  

criminal law has different standards and rules from civil law

2019-11-03 15:25:26 UTC  

MA, it would depend on the specifics of the case. There are always exceptions to every rule, I'm just explaining the theory behind the procedure

2019-11-03 15:25:30 UTC  

Did the scam involve a good dicking?<:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-11-03 15:25:43 UTC  

the man in question and his shaddy attorney used thos edifferences in his schemse

2019-11-03 15:26:11 UTC  

in a criminal proceeding, the state doesn't CARE about distinctions

2019-11-03 15:26:13 UTC  

Shaddy = shady x shoddy

2019-11-03 15:26:21 UTC  

yip

2019-11-03 15:26:42 UTC  

Explain to me what went on in this case.

2019-11-03 15:26:47 UTC  

brb

2019-11-03 15:26:57 UTC  

the guys ploy was to make some unsuspecting property owner an unintended bailee

2019-11-03 15:27:45 UTC  

he'd dump equipment at a property under the guise of doing work as a subcontractor of a 3rd party; then he'd leave it there and file a theft claim

2019-11-03 15:28:39 UTC  

he'd wait until insurance investigation then have another one of his shell companies go get the equip and after 6 mo, apply for a new title with another shelll company and sell it for profit

2019-11-03 15:30:02 UTC  

when i demanded to see paperwork of ownership, not knowing who or why equip was on my property, he obsecured his identity behind his wife in order to attempt to extort money

2019-11-03 15:30:55 UTC  

How did he obscure his identity behind his wife?

2019-11-03 15:31:00 UTC  

if someone comes onto your property and starts something, you never saw him before but you call the cops to have he removed for trespassing

2019-11-03 15:31:00 UTC  

Was the property in her name?

2019-11-03 15:31:14 UTC  

the cop doesn't know who owned the property. neither did i

2019-11-03 15:31:29 UTC  

but he circumvented the cop and went straight to the da

2019-11-03 15:31:54 UTC  

Sounds like the DA didn't do his due dilligence, but continue

2019-11-03 15:32:07 UTC  

regardless if i KNEW that equipment was his wifes, it didn't matter; he has a legal right to be on my property

2019-11-03 15:32:09 UTC  

absolutely

2019-11-03 15:32:20 UTC  

DA is primary culprit

2019-11-03 15:32:35 UTC  

Dear god why can't the warren camp just die a quiet death.

2019-11-03 15:32:50 UTC  

@SageTheory Cuz you touch yourself at night

2019-11-03 15:32:57 UTC  

but this guy used the criminal system in order to prevent me from taking civil action

2019-11-03 15:33:42 UTC  

more importantly, prevent me from exposing his scam

2019-11-03 15:34:02 UTC  

Well, if he's claiming theft, that IS a criminal action, but he should have gone to the cops, not the DA, and the DA should have checked with the cops, since he would know he'd have to go through motions and discovery

2019-11-03 15:34:20 UTC  

he did; the cops were on MY side

2019-11-03 15:34:47 UTC  

the cheif of police was beside himself when it happend

2019-11-03 15:34:53 UTC  

Btw, your civil action IS a separate issue from his criminal complaint, but go on

2019-11-03 15:35:38 UTC  

it was even worse than that; in order to try to extort money from me, he had his wife hire an attorney using her madien name and issue me a letter

2019-11-03 15:36:10 UTC  

Did you tell her to fuck off?

2019-11-03 15:37:06 UTC  

trying to get me to do something in returning the equipment left on my property, documenting a good faith action while the husband out of left field made threats

2019-11-03 15:38:53 UTC  

using that ploy, he can act as either owner or innocent third party depending on what the victim of the ploy tries to do

2019-11-03 15:39:27 UTC  

So burden of prove lies with the accuser. What evidence did he have that it was stolen? Possession is 9/10s of the law, but the other is choses in action. So you said he had a reason to be on your property with equipment and I assume you had a written contract with him. The equipment was still there and he apparently knew it was, so the most reasonable course of action would be to tell him go get his stuff and you two break your contract. I'd be asking him tons of questions.

2019-11-03 15:39:36 UTC  

forged paperwork

2019-11-03 15:39:52 UTC  

How do you know it was forged?