and the actual battle was relatively short

yeah was gonna say, the siege itself was at some point mid april and lasted until war's end

@Marushia Dark its a pretty often talked topic so ya it does tend to repeat itself

I think D-Day is kinda interesting

I mean

All that planning

And it was so violent

Berlin was cut off on April the 16th ye

a lot of battles get planning tho

It was the perfect dramatic turning point in a way

you think they invaded north africa blind?

lol

Well

From Stalingrad to Berlin

north africa and italian offensive took quite a bit of planning

British bombers dropped 45,517 tons of bombs; the Americans dropped 23,000 tons. As the bombings continued more and more people moved out. By May 1945, 1.7 million people (40% of the population) had fled (Berlin).

No I know

The journey of the average Soviet soldier

Obviously they are planned

Wait I'm scrolled up fucj

the average soviet soldiers journey was

home to stalingrad

to 6 ft under

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I dont think that stat is accurate

Germany has a population of like 50-60 million

Well.im not saying other wars or battles aren't interesting

If 1.7 mil fled, that's clearly not 40%

But WWII was kind of its own thing

tbh d-day is more of a monumental cock up

of planning

than anything else

Hmm

The complete destruction of Berlin was a symbolic end to the European Theater

they succeeded based on the tide of men

@Al Capwned of berlin

That doesn't make it less interesting

not because of sound tactical decisions

And to the Soviet-German War

oh oh yea

i see