and he was from novgorod

I said Unified

Novgorod is actually where Rurik first conquered and settled.

then the rus arent ancestors of russia at all

lol

Until one of his descendants moved to Kiev.

they have almost no territorial overlap with early russia

:/

and the prevailing migration patterns at the time were to the west

Yes they do.

with the mongol hordes...

You are talking too late.

@Sham00e almost the entirety of the kievan rus state was commonwealth land

the orthodox rus's decendants were a distinct subculture within the commonwealth

Oh yah, but the important part is the Eastern Rurikovids unified Russia.

No Rurik, no Rus, no Russia.

Someone else may have unified it but as of our Timeline Rurik and the Vikings who followed him formed the Foundation of Russia.

And we were talking settings for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 Electric Boogaloo.

Where would YOU put it. @Lucienne d'Anwyl

wait

is Sham a Tsarist

does it have to be historically accurate

Yes, that is the point.

mmm

maybe the dithmarschen revolt?

Oh that?!

Cool

do i got a white army brother in chat rn

Dew it.

@Sham00e

it's 1:20am and I'm not really thinking straight rn ngl

@spooky ducc sounds like youre having trouble coming to terms with your innate homosexuality

I am not a Tzarist but White Army should have won.

I just like cool Birbs

ah

@spooky ducc

still counts, I'll ping you when it's time to fuck with BabaBooey

Also I was going more for Byzantium.

😂👌

ah a fellow b y z a b o o

hello everyone