It might be unwarranted, as in, unlike CO2, methane does break up eventually.

(If it didn't Earth's atmosphere would be quite toxic.)

CO2 does not break up, unfortunately, since it's in a very low-energy state.

sure, you might not want to go around *trying* to pump *extra* in to the air; but i'm sure that bogs/swamps produce more methane that cow farts

methane is just decaying biomass

and i'd wager that we don't have any more cows today (in america) than we had bison roaming the plains 300 yrs ago .... you know, the ones that people lament over having their populations almost extincted (and never really recovered)

surely they were responsible for at least as much methane than cows today

Well, mentioning methane output of cows is still relevant, compared to humans eating more plants themselves.

I still don't understand the maths where supposedly herbivore diet causes more animal suffering because the need to kill pests at the field. (Where as supposedly pests don't need killing in the fields growing food for cows, who eat tens times more to produce similar weight of edible meat.)

It's the problem especially with cattle: they are very inefficient at building bodymass of edible meat. Pigs grow fatter faster.

Not to mention chicken.

cuz spinach can't defend itself

But spinach that is fed to a cow can?

Are you a retard?

cows and pigs do a pretty good job of chasing pests away themselves

How does food grown for human need defending but that grown for cows is capable of self-defense?

cows don't eat human food

Wheat is not human food?

cows eat grass/straw/hay

cow food doesn't need to be cultivated. it just grows by itself all wild and stuff

wheat? who tf feeds them wheat?

Not even the stalks?

what?

grass. they eat grass.

hay

straw

that shit grows everywhere -- it can't not grow

Well, that's when they are grazing.

I'm just not aware of the countless animals killed to protect wheat.

Conservatives always claim countless animals are killed to protect it.

and that's also what you bail, for them to eat when they can't graze

To the point that carnivorism is animal protection.

um, i know there's an argument that says that you would necessitate an total genocide every livestock animal if we all go vegan

And that's the most retarded of all arguments.

i'm just saying it's out there

You could just ban breeding new ones and eat the current, already existing ones.

tru

Yet, I've heard that argument several times.

but now we have several more species that are now extinct.
i thought greenies were all about the biodiversity?

Errrr... now we havE?

And how are greenies responsible of extinction?