Message from @Snake

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2019-09-25 00:49:10 UTC  

Basically just metals used in electronics

2019-09-25 00:49:13 UTC  

Bread continues to remain scarce, as are the capital and intermediary goods requisite, as well labor, to the production, @Little Boots.

2019-09-25 00:49:18 UTC  

And batteries

2019-09-25 00:49:32 UTC  

This will always remain to be the case.

2019-09-25 00:49:35 UTC  

@Snake alkalines and Rare Earth Metals

2019-09-25 00:49:42 UTC  

Yeah that’s right

2019-09-25 00:49:43 UTC  

@Jeremy that is true. It's just so common in most western countries that there's little issue getting it.

2019-09-25 00:49:45 UTC  

It is REM

2019-09-25 00:49:50 UTC  

Not REE lmao

2019-09-25 00:50:37 UTC  

I feel like Jeremy should argue a anarcho communist

2019-09-25 00:50:42 UTC  

I used to do that a lot

2019-09-25 00:50:52 UTC  

I can't.

2019-09-25 00:50:55 UTC  

Argue with fucking anarcho communists

2019-09-25 00:50:59 UTC  

Friendly reminder that solar and wind energy will never be valid energy sources because there's not enough alkalines in the fucking planet to build enough batteries to store and distribute solar or wind power

2019-09-25 00:51:01 UTC  

I tend to suffer from braincell loss after those.

2019-09-25 00:51:07 UTC  

Trust me it’s definitely not worth your time lmao

2019-09-25 00:51:17 UTC  

Funny thing is they think we’re the dumbasses

2019-09-25 00:51:25 UTC  

100% True.

2019-09-25 00:51:34 UTC  

Solar and Wind is just not viable.

2019-09-25 00:51:36 UTC  

@UnfilteredGarbage
As we know of yet.

2019-09-25 00:51:40 UTC  

@UnfilteredGarbage but hopefully we can mine them from space one day

2019-09-25 00:52:00 UTC  

You would have to develop some form of higher-efficiency battery before we could ever make it efficient enough.

2019-09-25 00:52:00 UTC  

Goddamn I can’t wait for space exploration

2019-09-25 00:52:17 UTC  

@Snake that still wouldn't adress the other problems with those energy sources, their unpredictability and low efficiency, etc

2019-09-25 00:52:18 UTC  

More space and natural resources for humans to spread on

2019-09-25 00:52:24 UTC  

That's one of the main setbacks of alternative energy, yes

2019-09-25 00:52:24 UTC  

Mmmmm

2019-09-25 00:52:32 UTC  

Thanks to Capitalism, but there's certainly some subsidization going on, leading toward inefficient production of said intermediary goods, grown in climates without environmental advantage, meaning there's an inefficiency on the supply side. Further, there is surplus production, leading to waste, due to subsidization, @Little Boots. I always found it ironic how Communists would remark Capitalism also having an issue with surplus production, citing markets such as agriculture, when it was the market intervention of the government which caused it.

2019-09-25 00:52:44 UTC  

@UnfilteredGarbage look up issac author, he talks about sci fi shit that can actually work

2019-09-25 00:52:47 UTC  

Nuclear energy is still the safest and most efficient energy source imaginable

2019-09-25 00:53:46 UTC  

@Jeremy not disagreeing. My main point is that Bread isn't as uncommon as it was hundreds of years ago, but that doesn't mean there's some new form of scarcity beyond that.

2019-09-25 00:54:44 UTC  

It may not be perceivably scarce, under the current conditions, but it remains to be mathematically.

2019-09-25 00:54:45 UTC  

TL;DR: Scarcity is perpetual for most resources. You can efficiently produce resources and distribute them efficiently, but there is still a base limit to the amount that can be produced and, therefore, is limited.

2019-09-25 00:54:58 UTC  

There you go.

2019-09-25 00:55:06 UTC  

@Little Boots the bigger issue is that it's not really self-evident that totally eliminating scarcity would actually be good for humanity. People need SOMETHING to do, and not everyone or even a good slice of the population can be fulfilled sitting around and sucking their own dick all day

2019-09-25 00:55:34 UTC  

@UnfilteredGarbage *Insert weird sexual fantasies here.*

2019-09-25 00:56:03 UTC  

Here’s a perspective to think about, communism will destroy nations, like I’ve said and as they’ve said they’re internationalist that think the world can live together. Anarcho communists want no military or police force, because they want no state

2019-09-25 00:56:17 UTC  

The NIMH Rat Universe studies show what happens when you eliminate scarcity and competition in human-analogue society

2019-09-25 00:56:18 UTC  

That’s basically suicide for anyone who adopts that ideology

2019-09-25 00:56:23 UTC  

It's not fucking pretty

2019-09-25 00:56:38 UTC  

Plus old school communism will kill entire cultures and history