Thanks to Capitalism, but there's certainly some subsidization going on, leading toward inefficient production of said intermediary goods, grown in climates without environmental advantage, meaning there's an inefficiency on the supply side. Further, there is surplus production, leading to waste, due to subsidization, @Little Boots. I always found it ironic how Communists would remark Capitalism also having an issue with surplus production, citing markets such as agriculture, when it was the market intervention of the government which caused it.

@UnfilteredGarbage look up issac author, he talks about sci fi shit that can actually work

Nuclear energy is still the safest and most efficient energy source imaginable

@Jeremy not disagreeing. My main point is that Bread isn't as uncommon as it was hundreds of years ago, but that doesn't mean there's some new form of scarcity beyond that.

It may not be perceivably scarce, under the current conditions, but it remains to be mathematically.

TL;DR: Scarcity is perpetual for most resources. You can efficiently produce resources and distribute them efficiently, but there is still a base limit to the amount that can be produced and, therefore, is limited.

There you go.

@Little Boots the bigger issue is that it's not really self-evident that totally eliminating scarcity would actually be good for humanity. People need SOMETHING to do, and not everyone or even a good slice of the population can be fulfilled sitting around and sucking their own dick all day

@UnfilteredGarbage *Insert weird sexual fantasies here.*

Here’s a perspective to think about, communism will destroy nations, like I’ve said and as they’ve said they’re internationalist that think the world can live together. Anarcho communists want no military or police force, because they want no state

The NIMH Rat Universe studies show what happens when you eliminate scarcity and competition in human-analogue society

That’s basically suicide for anyone who adopts that ideology

It's not fucking pretty

Plus old school communism will kill entire cultures and history

Look at China’s cultural revolution

@UnfilteredGarbage yes, it's called "extinction."

Old school communism will kill everyone it can

20th century communism was the most efficient plague the world has ever seen

In terms of raw deaths

It completely annihilates anyone that wants to keep things old school. Tradition and having pride in your heritage and where you come from is evil

And racist

And if you’re white, the commies think you don’t have a culture anyway

So they’ll be destroying your history and you while claiming it never existed

That's why Fascism came about.

How quint

"White people have no culture"
t. Social nihilist unmoored from reality that idolizes China's social atomization

The early influences on Fascism were the critiques of Communism as described by Marx by Italian and French philosophers.

@UnfilteredGarbage, exactly. The very elimination of scarcity, if achievable with some flamboyant technology reminiscent of a quantum particle generator, is not conducive to positive ends.

never gonna happen

even you, yourself, are scarce.

Never going to happen.

My point, exactly.

I will die before I let communist destroy my nation and its people

The futurists would argue that once humans become inefficient in the system, they'll just be out-moded entirely

They can have my life for all I care, but they won’t have everything I grew from

Time remains to be a scarcity, and even in a Type-3 civilization, energy remains arguably scarce, @Synapse.

Nick Land talks about capital having a kind of consciousness, or the ability to become self-transacting and develop beyond the means of humans to control it

We'll never transcend to Kardashev's Type-3 anyway, so it all remains useless speculation.

Oh shit I have to go do duolingo so that bird doesn't break my kneecaps

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Humans spread like cancer