Message from @Scale_e

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2019-07-12 00:28:47 UTC  

Silicon can't form double bonds or silicon-silicon bonds

2019-07-12 00:28:49 UTC  

@ebinmemes22 which is what I was going to explain until you interrupted me.

2019-07-12 00:29:03 UTC  

but were great at thinking something is impossible

2019-07-12 00:29:07 UTC  

until it happens

2019-07-12 00:29:08 UTC  

By what we've seen so far.

2019-07-12 00:29:33 UTC  

Silicon can't form long *and* stable chains needed for formation of proteins, and thus life.

2019-07-12 00:29:34 UTC  

This is why I keep on appending "maybe."

2019-07-12 00:29:38 UTC  

You *don't* need to be tree-climbing to develop hands. If anything, claws are better at that than hands.

2019-07-12 00:29:46 UTC  

If there were silicon based life, it would have to be very radically different to us

2019-07-12 00:30:00 UTC  

I know it's annoying, but that's the very core of science.

2019-07-12 00:30:11 UTC  

Also, evolution is... weird.

2019-07-12 00:30:14 UTC  

@retxirT actually, silicon would probably be fine in that regard

2019-07-12 00:30:24 UTC  

also i has this thought. could there be an “animal” that would in reality be a plant? could a plant develop limbs and basic organs for non-stationary life?

2019-07-12 00:30:27 UTC  

Still, carbon is better.

2019-07-12 00:30:37 UTC  

[X] *maybe* until it's proven otherwise.

2019-07-12 00:30:43 UTC  

Silicon-oxygen bonds are a thing, and proteins are built on carbon-nitrogen

2019-07-12 00:30:46 UTC  

@robert from kinoplex it'd be ridiculously hard, but not entirely impossible.

2019-07-12 00:30:56 UTC  
2019-07-12 00:31:16 UTC  

No [2].

2019-07-12 00:31:18 UTC  

The definitions of “plant and animal” would, most likely, not even apply in life evolved on another world.

2019-07-12 00:31:24 UTC  

Those are earth concepts.

2019-07-12 00:31:28 UTC  

Precursors to Limbs would present no benefit to a plant

2019-07-12 00:31:42 UTC  

@Scale_e fuck off you pretentious twat

2019-07-12 00:31:47 UTC  

Unless if they were hybrids.

2019-07-12 00:31:47 UTC  

Seriously

2019-07-12 00:31:47 UTC  

(Which is why, to carry on with my previous note, "settled science" makes me foam at the mouth.)

2019-07-12 00:31:56 UTC  

something like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/599035173253677097/image0.jpg

2019-07-12 00:31:59 UTC  

The first lifeforms would always be photosynthetic

2019-07-12 00:32:10 UTC  

@robert from kinoplex highly unlikely.

2019-07-12 00:32:14 UTC  

Would they? How could you know that?

2019-07-12 00:32:16 UTC  

There would be clear distinctions and obvious types

2019-07-12 00:32:25 UTC  

Because it's that or nothing lol

2019-07-12 00:32:39 UTC  

Damnit, initial descent.

2019-07-12 00:32:40 UTC  

You could have algea around thermal vents too I suppose

2019-07-12 00:32:41 UTC  

If anything, they'd still look extremely plant-like, but have features that might be "animal-like."

2019-07-12 00:32:49 UTC  

Or, it might be on a planet where the first life gets its energy some other way.

2019-07-12 00:32:54 UTC  

Like a venus fly trap?

2019-07-12 00:33:11 UTC  

Because at the beginning there is nothing except atmosphere and light.

2019-07-12 00:33:13 UTC  

@Scale_e where from?

2019-07-12 00:33:30 UTC  

“It happened that way here, so it must have happened like that there.” Is extremely short sighted.
Where from? We can’t know. That’s the point.

2019-07-12 00:33:31 UTC  

Or that an exotic element is common.