Message from @ManAnimal
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me telling you to dab epic style is diferent from me telling you to kill some dude
Fault, responsibility, pls.
do you even UNDERSTAND the Blackwater Formulation?
eu faço o dab
Doesn't seem like you even follow the argument.
But you ARE appealing to authority which is rather common these days
the Blackwater Formulation implies that the State will allow many more criminals to go free on a technicality rather than lock up a single innocent in the name of 'the greater good'
therefore, as a consequence, women required a community of good men to insulate them from those 'bad men' which the State has released based on the 'presumption of innocence'
the moment 'incitement' which is 'me speaking words ONLY without ACTION' can be actionable by the STATE, the State will begin trying to LEGISTLATE morality and will use that leverage to label any 'joke or critisizm' as ' threat'
Makes sense so far
So animal is fine with people whipping up a mob. Got it.
we now live in a world where i could see two kids playing in the street and out of concern go to the mother and say, "You should REALLY get your kids out the street before then get hit by a car" and the woman will interpret this as, "This man is threatening to run my kids down wiith his car!"
anyone can misisntpret a joke as a 'call to action'
thats pretty stupid
and the 'intent' isn't what qualifies something as 'incitement' only the INTERPRETATION
whether intented that way or not
I have a real smortphone now
@Ayylmao A person commanding someone to do something is not more or less responsible for the outcome simply because of a moral judgement on said outcome.
No it's cut and clear if I say to kill or damage a property that's incitement.
youre intentionally overblowing a simple situation into some sort of weird extremely autistic scenario
you are being naive and oversimplifying things assuming that people are more often like you, rational, rather than the opposite
if you are lucky, you get a 50/50 mix
That's because animal is probably autistic tbf to go though such mental gymnastics to justify incitement.
but i digress
nope. but i HAVE been misinterpreted BY autistics before and got in trouble for it
you'll learn, eventually..... ( if the left doesn't ruin everything first)
night
Sarcastic remarks exist, and so do things like dogwhistles and "the unknown" in general.
Get some rest those gymnastics are tiring.
A person decides to be a sheep.
It depends on what you’re specifically saying.
If you are say “Ladies and gentlemen, there is a *negro* outside, stealing your *bicycles! That’s the fellow, over yonder! His name is Tyrone! Tyrone, we’re coming for you, Tyrone! Quickly, ladies and gentlemen, accost that *negro*, Tyrone and we’ll have a good old fashioned lynching!”
Obvious incitement. Been illegal for hundreds of years. Not protected speech. At all.
If, on the other hand, you were to say “Ladies and Gentlemen, if you look at these statistics, you’ll clearly see that, as the *negro* population in a community rises, a proportionate rise in bicycle theft is observable.”
That’s not incitement. It’s... kinda douche, and depending on the motivation of the speaker, probably racist, but it’s not incitement.
more importantly to me
it's quite funny
The former has been, and rightly so, illegal forever.
The problem is that the *latter* is more and more being seen as synonymous with the former.
>When you joke about crime but he brings up Black crime statistics
*Winks at the camera*
Like AliG says, keep it real.
tbh most jokes are just humorously phrased statistics
>inb4 13do50
*what's the deeeal with airline food*