Message from @Muten
Discord ID: 599103542355165195
now, the State is seen as the ONLY authority rather than the State being secondary to parents, grandparents and community which would influence, deter and even punish you outside of the long arms of the law
https://youtu.be/2vpa3V4-g5A LEAF DOES POLITICAL TEST (NOT CLICKBAIT) (GONE SEXUAL)
An agreeable observation. @ManAnimal
I mostly did this because people in another server kept trying to call me far-right, and I haven't done one of these in a while.
@ManAnimal Are you suggesting that the state should parent children more than their parents do?
Is/ought.
The United Caliphate of Al-England and Northern Ireland
noegative
It is that the State overrides the parents, the question is ought it be so?
i am saying the EXACT opposite
And I agree, that it ought *not* be so.
that it is IMPORTANT to have a 'grey zone' that the community has juristiction over
yes, everyone is subject to the law, BUT if no one finds out.....
the State needs to keep it's distance and that means a community must fill that void
@ManAnimal the state shouldn't exist
why can't the community have it's own laws
if you don't have that community, the vaccum will be filled with the State
that way it's offical
I would caveat that the State is neccessary.
fill the void with community specific laws
because a community doesn't influence, reward nor enforce with 'laws'
that statment misses the point
LAW is explict
why can't it?
ETHICS is implict
Ethics are the basis for the laws
Community deals which ethics
Anyway be home in about 30 mikes..don't burn the server down in my absence.
the State deals with laws
these are totally different mechanism
I think your conception of "community" is flawed
I'm talking a group of individuals within a certain area
i can remember when we HAD 'community'
@Laucivol the state is not neccessary
small scale
(Also, stop boosting my ego. It's not helpful.)
whereas the state is a larger governing body
i am not so sure your grasp what i am refering to
you see to assume the "community" is the people