forcing a woman to raise a child from rape is punishing the woman

yep

also 'someone elses actions' can be a reaction to you

They don't have to raise it

Then abortion is also just as morally wrong.

no, cuz ur not punishing anyone

Someone needs to get this man a video of an ultrasound-assisted abortion and let him watch as the baby struggles against the implements and tries to swim away as it's cut apart

heres the truth fuckers

so there's not a realy causality break there

Hey

Just a little tip for whores who cant afford a fucking condom for whoever fucks them

ABORT THE BABY RIGHT AWAY AND NOT WHEN ITS ACTUALLY ALIVE AND READY

A little off topic

@Jake the Exile 1. "muh emotions" 2. Im not talking about 3rd trimester abortions you idiot

Even if you could predict the future, which none of us can, we have no right to simply terminate a life at whim.

don't be such a square @Ayylmao

But I hate that the left wants free abortions and free contraception like nigger pick one

@Little Boots what does that have to do wit hanything

were talking about abortion right

yes we are

okay

im not punishing anyone for future actions

@Polekov The argument is that anything that isn't born yet is a fetus and thus not worth considering as human.

I don't even think the abortion debate is left vs right

Oh yeah, being a responsible mother is such a punishment.

@Jake the Exile no my argument that fetuses, up to a certain stage, arent capable of feeling and thinking

Since Communist regimes back in the day also didn't like abortion

ok, what's better?

neither are you @Polekov

killing a first trimester fetus?

@Polekov But you said it doesn't matter as long as they're rape babies

or a mother leaving a baby in a trashcan?

Again, im talking about first trimester fetuses, who cannot feel

or think

or roasting it like a turkey

I mean I don't want to be dark but

you're taking me out of context

@Polekov because your entire argument is based entirely on that concept of “what if.” We can’t know the future. Terminating their life is depriving them the chance to be able to live it. If they turn out good or bad is not something we can control. However, terminating their existence is an amoral act regardless of their future.

see if you dont abort you can have some use out of it @Polekov

At least we can punish the latter

@Little Boots my argument isnt based on what if, i've never said what if at all

my argument is

Nah