What would China's state ideology be nowadays, anyway? It isn't exactly communism, they kinda gave up with that just like Vietnam did

Yeah but we had that in the first few hundred years of the US' history.

But Vietnam doesn't need to set up suicide nets

dang china gave up on communism... wonder why

@SageTheory dude

Commies never had their utopia and never will

9 conglomerates own the worlds corporations

Shit out in Vietnam is dirt cheap, actually, I'd probably save £10k and kick back there

is you stupid ?

Dude

asking if someone is stupid with that grammar

literally like 3 conglomerates control all media

Venezuela is burning

fantastic

are you stupid?

Watch china squirm due to tarrifs

@SageTheory is it? whats the latest on our buddy ole pale guiado ?

He's a socialist too lol

@SageTheory also nice pivot

@Hikagae ill enjoy every second of the squirming

He is right, corporate power is extremely centralised in the hands of a few corporations. Kinda scary when you think about it

he's not going to improve venezuala

But Venezuela looks damn bad right now

I wouldn't go there

China would likely regress

@SageTheory - "corporations owning everything is what we had a hundred years ago"

jesus christ

Tell me what communism did tho

fucking groomed

you won't

Nah, not on this scale. In the tobacco industry? Maybe, but not every last industry

you'll just say capitalism bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306247079720648705/600903322202931200/34a7325.jpg

and end ithere

@SageTheory do yourself a massive favor

starvation. murder. @SageTheory

Oh, nice, anime penis

Anyway

read Manufacturing Consent

@BabaBooey Beyond that fundamental concern (Communism reaching beyond *just* economic system, vs Capitalism which stays to economy. It's apples and oranges at that point. ) The biggest issue I have with Marx is that he merged the worst of where capitalism *might* go, to the best of where communism *could* go. He did not have the benefit of a century of play.

What did communism do?