Message from @Kaiser (ICFD)
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very true
But the issue is we give equal weight to people that hate the other gender and have no real. Life experience to people who work themselves to the bone for everyone without any thanks.
but that is a false equivalance
3 words
Service
The vote should be a privilege, not a right, and a product of merit and not happenstance
Guarantees
woman have DIFFERNT value than men
not 'no value'
Citizenship
these are quite literally two different dimensions
Complicated question megamind was actually good on this topic
Before he left
that in many ways need to be mutually exclusive to work
If you’re willing to put your life on the line for your nation, you have the right to vote
If not, then you don’t
that isn't a 'right'
Like, I'd even be willing to say men shouldn't have a vote unless they are married. And if an adult is single but owns land, they can have a vote.
If you just ban women from voting because they vote left they are still leftists they just have no power at the moment
by your logic then, a 'right' is based solely on what one is 'willling'
Not fixing the source of the problem
wishes don't make the world
Some barrier of entry
actions do\
Not something anyone that's broke as fuck can vote on, some drag on the economy can't say they want the economy to benefit them more.
Ah, but we’re not banning women from voting, anyone can vote
besides, that is why we are in this situation
They just need to serve first
We need to highlight the value in women that men CANNOT match
I'd be happy to lose my vote if it means people with more life experience are getting more weight in their vote.
It’s something you earn
Women have perhaps the most influence over people out of everyone esp in the age of the internet
Women make babies.
before addressing the value men have that women cannot match
**eyes narrow** correct
So uh
otherwise, it becomes US vs THEM
If a woman gives birth to a living child that they raise, they can vote.
we are STUCK using the logic OR
If they abort then send them to Sweden.